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I mean, you never stop in trips with your kids? That sounds pretty insane to me. I've done 1000+ miles in a EV and the charging times actually make the trip bet

I mean, you never stop in trips with your kids? That sounds pretty insane to me. I've done 1000+ miles in a EV and the charging times actually make the trip better.

dragontamer 5y ago
Oh, I stop with kids. But its where the kids like to stop. Having the car wanting to have a 30-minute break in an area where the kids don't want a break is just going to add additional, unnecessary hassle to the trip. Supercharger location #532 is not the Cracker Barrel where the kids want to take a break at. Realistically, someone is going to get the short-end of the stick here. And that'd be me: I'd likely have to stop at the Cracker Barrel (to make the kids feel good + get them the silly cheap toys they want to stay happy during the trip), and then I'll have to take another 30+ minute stop at the supercharger later to keep the car going. --------- Have you ever traveled with kids before? When the kids are asleep: you wanna book it as far as you can go. When the kids are awake, you need to take frequent breaks, far more frequently than your electric car demands. If your kids are asleep, you are wasting precious "kid sleeping time" sitting around at a 30+ minute supercharger instead of making good progress. If your kids are awake, there's no damn way they'll want to wait until the next supercharger for a break.
- thatfrenchguy 5y ago
  > Supercharger location #532 is not the Cracker Barrel where the kids want to take a break at No, it's probably somewhere interesting though. both Superchargers and ElectrifyAmerica in the US are in locations where there's interesting things to do or look at. Chargers are like every 40-50 miles or so, it's not like you have to wait an hour if you want to stop. > Have you ever traveled with kids before? Yes, a lot, in France, and I've never seen kids actually dictating when you stop. Maybe it's a white American parenting thing, or an artefact of how French highways are built where you're not stopping if you just missed the rest area and they're all the same anyway?
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    > Maybe it's a white American parenting thing, or an artefact of how French highways are built where you're not stopping if you just missed the rest area and they're all the same anyway? American highways have terrible rest stops. (Okay, it varies at the State level. Ohio's rest stops are actually really good for example) For actual comfort for a decent stop, you wanna stop at a highway town / tourist trap. These are towns scattered across the US Highway system. There are chain restaurants (ex: McDonalds) if you're trying to make good time, but a nice sitdown place is often more comfortable. Cracker Barrel is a nice chain that caters towards the highway travelers in particular. It has a children-oriented gift shop approximately the size of the restaurant. Its a good place to stop if you have kids. They stock all sorts of games and toys (simple peg-puzzles like solatare, backgammon, chess, checkers. Harmonicas / Kazoos too but don't buy those unless you wanna be annoyed while driving lol.) while also offering a good sized dining area. Its a good place to take a break as an adult, while the kids can browse for toys that will amuse them for the rest of the drive. ----------- That's the thing. I make a decision to stop there for the comfort of myself and the kids. That's a very different thing than going to a supercharger station for 30+ minutes out of necessity. If you take enough road trips along the same route, the kids remember these locations and ask to visit again. The kids aren't the only ones who want to stop at the Cracker Barrel over there, I do too.

I mean, you never stop in trips with your kids? That sounds pretty insane to me. I've done 1000+ miles in a EV and the charging times actually make the trip better.

dragontamer 5y ago

Oh, I stop with kids. But its where the kids like to stop. Having the car wanting to have a 30-minute break in an area where the kids don't want a break is just going to add additional, unnecessary hassle to the trip. Supercharger location #532 is not the Cracker Barrel where the kids want to take a break at. Realistically, someone is going to get the short-end of the stick here. And that'd be me: I'd likely have to stop at the Cracker Barrel (to make the kids feel good + get them the silly cheap toys they want to stay happy during the trip), and then I'll have to take another 30+ minute stop at the supercharger later to keep the car going. --------- Have you ever traveled with kids before? When the kids are asleep: you wanna book it as far as you can go. When the kids are awake, you need to take frequent breaks, far more frequently than your electric car demands. If your kids are asleep, you are wasting precious "kid sleeping time" sitting around at a 30+ minute supercharger instead of making good progress. If your kids are awake, there's no damn way they'll want to wait until the next supercharger for a break.

thatfrenchguy 5y ago
> Supercharger location #532 is not the Cracker Barrel where the kids want to take a break at No, it's probably somewhere interesting though. both Superchargers and ElectrifyAmerica in the US are in locations where there's interesting things to do or look at. Chargers are like every 40-50 miles or so, it's not like you have to wait an hour if you want to stop. > Have you ever traveled with kids before? Yes, a lot, in France, and I've never seen kids actually dictating when you stop. Maybe it's a white American parenting thing, or an artefact of how French highways are built where you're not stopping if you just missed the rest area and they're all the same anyway?
- dragontamer 5y ago
  > Maybe it's a white American parenting thing, or an artefact of how French highways are built where you're not stopping if you just missed the rest area and they're all the same anyway? American highways have terrible rest stops. (Okay, it varies at the State level. Ohio's rest stops are actually really good for example) For actual comfort for a decent stop, you wanna stop at a highway town / tourist trap. These are towns scattered across the US Highway system. There are chain restaurants (ex: McDonalds) if you're trying to make good time, but a nice sitdown place is often more comfortable. Cracker Barrel is a nice chain that caters towards the highway travelers in particular. It has a children-oriented gift shop approximately the size of the restaurant. Its a good place to stop if you have kids. They stock all sorts of games and toys (simple peg-puzzles like solatare, backgammon, chess, checkers. Harmonicas / Kazoos too but don't buy those unless you wanna be annoyed while driving lol.) while also offering a good sized dining area. Its a good place to take a break as an adult, while the kids can browse for toys that will amuse them for the rest of the drive. ----------- That's the thing. I make a decision to stop there for the comfort of myself and the kids. That's a very different thing than going to a supercharger station for 30+ minutes out of necessity. If you take enough road trips along the same route, the kids remember these locations and ask to visit again. The kids aren't the only ones who want to stop at the Cracker Barrel over there, I do too.