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> “ - Pedestrians that engage in more illegal behaviours today are less likely to be in favour of the fine/infringement for bullying fully automated vehicles.”
by sonofhans 5y ago
> “ - Pedestrians that engage in more illegal behaviours today are less likely to be in favour of the fine/infringement for bullying fully automated vehicles.”
Bullying? Seriously? How do you bully an inanimate object? My guess is that he’s using the verb “bully” as a proxy, because the autonomous car is supposedly carrying out the wishes of a human agent. In that case, blocking the car is thwarting the will of a human. But even that is very thin.
Machines should adapt to humans, not the other way around. Our common spaces have already been taken over my automobiles, made unsafe by them. Walking used to be the default mode of human transport, and now it’s an explicit second-class citizen to driving a car.
Adopting this frame where it’s possible to bully a robot leads us closer to blaming pedestrians when they’re killed by robots. We already do this with vehicles driven by humans — it’s been said for years that if you want to kill someone and get away with it, run over them with your car. What’s next? Justifiable automated homicide? “I’m sorry, officer, that pedestrian was making my robot feel unsafe. It was just protecting itself.”
- JoeAltmaier 5y agoDon't be silly. Somebody is in that car. When you screw with it you're making somebody late, no matter who is driving.
- cwkoss 5y agoIs there a fine for intentionally blocking a non-automated car? I don't understand why robot cars should have any additional rights that non-automated ones do not.
- JoeAltmaier 5y agoBecause it will likely be a chronic issue. And a car cannot even pretend to be aggressive - we all know a robo-car will just roll over and let you troll it.
- cwkoss 5y agoIf robot cars have right of way over pedestrians, won't they become literally aggressive? In that they'll kill people who get in their way?
- sonofhans 5y agoEven today there are driverless vehicles on public streets. Not many, but more than last year. E.g., Tesla’s “Smart Summon [sic]” feature is supposed to fetch your car for you. So no, there isn’t always someone in the car. The linked thread doesn’t mention humans one way or the other; it’s all about the cars. It’s reasonable — obvious, even — to assume that all driverless cars are the context, not just human-occupied ones.