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I asked a question, which you did not answer. I did not say anything about whose fault it is. EDIT: FWIW, I think it is manifestly obvious that Biden and the c

by rrss 5y ago

I asked a question, which you did not answer. I did not say anything about whose fault it is. EDIT: FWIW, I think it is manifestly obvious that Biden and the current administration is responsible for the current situation. No need to convince me of that.

SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
Sorry, I didn't understand how questions you asked were relevant, no offense. They never came to fruition under Trump. IIRC, his timetable had big mile markers for major withdraws in June, he was out in Jan. While not ignoring you with a "At this point what difference does it make?" esp when that was said, the answer was actually "all the difference". In this case, I thought you were asking rhetorically. My point was it is beyond-the-pale to blame Trump's plan that wasn't followed by Biden, IC, and Bureaucracy failures here. Biden spent a year saying this was his choice and his plan. Him and his press secretary are on vacation this week, so we'll have to wait and see if that's still the case. I think a difference I'm seeing in my head is that during Vietnam, we were pushing UH-1 Hueys helos into the ocean to make room for evacuees on our carriers. In these linked videos, we're leaving people so desperate they clung to a C-117 and are almost certainly all dead now, and leaving 10-20k American citizens behind at this moment. I know literacy and formal education among Afgans is low (but was getting a lot higher), but you have to understand you can't hang on to C-117 or sit on the landing gear panel for a minute let alone hours. The cruise speed for a C-117 is ~200 knots (200-250mph depending on model). Not to mention that the young generation in Afghanistan, up to 25 years old or so, have never known anything but US protections. That just changed in 1 week. To ignore all that and instead use your platform to "blame Trump", Liz, and USA Today, that's disgusting to me. Vile and deceitful, even considering the last 5 years of reality bending nonsense for political effect.

by rrss 5y ago

SV_BubbleTime 5y ago

Sorry, I didn't understand how questions you asked were relevant, no offense. They never came to fruition under Trump. IIRC, his timetable had big mile markers for major withdraws in June, he was out in Jan. While not ignoring you with a "At this point what difference does it make?" esp when that was said, the answer was actually "all the difference". In this case, I thought you were asking rhetorically. My point was it is beyond-the-pale to blame Trump's plan that wasn't followed by Biden, IC, and Bureaucracy failures here. Biden spent a year saying this was his choice and his plan. Him and his press secretary are on vacation this week, so we'll have to wait and see if that's still the case. I think a difference I'm seeing in my head is that during Vietnam, we were pushing UH-1 Hueys helos into the ocean to make room for evacuees on our carriers. In these linked videos, we're leaving people so desperate they clung to a C-117 and are almost certainly all dead now, and leaving 10-20k American citizens behind at this moment. I know literacy and formal education among Afgans is low (but was getting a lot higher), but you have to understand you can't hang on to C-117 or sit on the landing gear panel for a minute let alone hours. The cruise speed for a C-117 is ~200 knots (200-250mph depending on model). Not to mention that the young generation in Afghanistan, up to 25 years old or so, have never known anything but US protections. That just changed in 1 week. To ignore all that and instead use your platform to "blame Trump", Liz, and USA Today, that's disgusting to me. Vile and deceitful, even considering the last 5 years of reality bending nonsense for political effect.