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and the design is very tired. Notice how I am not judging on good- or bad-looking. But the Tesla design has been basically the same for many years and frankly

by ulfw 5y ago

and the design is very tired. Notice how I am not judging on good- or bad-looking. But the Tesla design has been basically the same for many years and frankly all models look so similar (with just different sizes and door configs etc etc)

natch 5y ago
If it’s just surface design you’re after, there are plenty of other options. Have at it. Personally I’m more interested in the powertrain efficiency and other consequential features.
njarboe 5y ago
I think that is on purpose. If you want society to have cars but use less resources than they currently do, then one should try and make them last as long as possible. Tesla has stated that it want to have cars last a million miles. The motors should do that already and they are working on the other components to do the same. We this in mind, one would want the 20 year old car to look very similar to the new one so that people don't feel the need to buy a new car just because the design is "very tired".
- Hamuko 5y ago
  >Tesla has stated that it want to have cars last a million miles. They should really have a better attitude towards independent repair shops if they want to do that.
  - njarboe 5y ago
    No argument there.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  With all due respect, this sounds like yet another one of those "Let's spin this negative thing so it sounds good!" situations. Like the spartan interior. Better than just admitting it needed to have costs reduced in every conceivable way, it became 'elegant.' Same with the exterior design. Redesigning & retooling every few years is expensive. Much cheaper to tell people you're trying to save the world.
mensetmanusman 5y ago
Confused, you said they all look the same when talking about design, but started with saying your comment is not about looks? Which non-aesthetic/look design aspect is tired?
ajross 5y ago
> But the Tesla design has been basically the same for many years They've completely changed the interior in the current generation, starting with the 2018 Model 3. It's actually quite unique in the industry, nothing else looks like a Tesla. Are you only talking about exterior design? Usually people prefer that to be a bit conservative, don't they? A 2021 Prius, for example, still has basically the same profile as the iconic 2004. Major changes to body style in the car industry are a once-a-decade thing, if that. And these are new cars; the first Model S shipped in 2012!
- Hamuko 5y ago
  >A 2021 Prius, for example, still has basically the same profile as the iconic 2004. The 2004 Prius and the 2021 Prius don't really look anything like each other unless you just compared the outlines of the profiles. Meanwhile trying to decipher if a Tesla Model S is a new one or an old one is a bit like trying to decipher if a car is a sport variant or a comfort variant. "Oh, you can tell that it's the sport version because the brake calipers are larger and the rear wheel arches are flared"

by ulfw 5y ago

natch 5y ago

If it’s just surface design you’re after, there are plenty of other options. Have at it. Personally I’m more interested in the powertrain efficiency and other consequential features.

njarboe 5y ago

I think that is on purpose. If you want society to have cars but use less resources than they currently do, then one should try and make them last as long as possible. Tesla has stated that it want to have cars last a million miles. The motors should do that already and they are working on the other components to do the same. We this in mind, one would want the 20 year old car to look very similar to the new one so that people don't feel the need to buy a new car just because the design is "very tired".

Hamuko 5y ago
>Tesla has stated that it want to have cars last a million miles. They should really have a better attitude towards independent repair shops if they want to do that.
- njarboe 5y ago
  No argument there.
rootusrootus 5y ago
With all due respect, this sounds like yet another one of those "Let's spin this negative thing so it sounds good!" situations. Like the spartan interior. Better than just admitting it needed to have costs reduced in every conceivable way, it became 'elegant.' Same with the exterior design. Redesigning & retooling every few years is expensive. Much cheaper to tell people you're trying to save the world.

mensetmanusman 5y ago

Confused, you said they all look the same when talking about design, but started with saying your comment is not about looks? Which non-aesthetic/look design aspect is tired?

ajross 5y ago

> But the Tesla design has been basically the same for many years They've completely changed the interior in the current generation, starting with the 2018 Model 3. It's actually quite unique in the industry, nothing else looks like a Tesla. Are you only talking about exterior design? Usually people prefer that to be a bit conservative, don't they? A 2021 Prius, for example, still has basically the same profile as the iconic 2004. Major changes to body style in the car industry are a once-a-decade thing, if that. And these are new cars; the first Model S shipped in 2012!

Hamuko 5y ago
>A 2021 Prius, for example, still has basically the same profile as the iconic 2004. The 2004 Prius and the 2021 Prius don't really look anything like each other unless you just compared the outlines of the profiles. Meanwhile trying to decipher if a Tesla Model S is a new one or an old one is a bit like trying to decipher if a car is a sport variant or a comfort variant. "Oh, you can tell that it's the sport version because the brake calipers are larger and the rear wheel arches are flared"