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What made you think to begin your plot for percentage of human lives claimed by war and famine at 100 years ago? 100 years ago IS modern times. We had electrici

What made you think to begin your plot for percentage of human lives claimed by war and famine at 100 years ago? 100 years ago IS modern times. We had electricity, automobiles, tractors, trains, modern agriculture, artificial fertilizer, etc by then. But also, you are off by a great deal for the 20th century. World War II claimed 80 million+ lives. World War I 40 million+, alone. Not even factoring for civil wars, Vietnam, African wars, and violent purges in USSR and China. The population wasn't 7.8 billion 100 years ago. You have to plot your data as a function of time. You can't fast-forward to present time population and compare with past death counts to arrive at a percentage. Here's an incomplete list of famines in human history, many of which caused civilizations to collapse: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

tekknik 5y ago
> 100 years ago IS modern times. This is quite a bit subjective. If the statement was from prior to 100 years ago then that's my mistake. Perhaps we should say specific periods instead of subjective terms. > The population wasn't 7.8 billion 100 years ago. You have to plot your data as a function of time. If the claim that population is controlled via wars and famine, then the current population of 7.8 billion was not effected by this. The evidence is in that large number. Not that 228 mil is a low percentage of 7.8 billion, but that if this is in fact a sink then it's inefficient. > But also, you are off by a great deal for the 20th century. World War II claimed 80 million+ lives. World War I 40 million+, alone. Not even factoring for civil wars, Vietnam, African wars, and violent purges in USSR and China. Thanks for the updated data. And I agree that if we rewind more through history this may have been true. If modern times means >=1500 then ok. Modern times to me means some percentage of my life given the rate of change of the world I've experience as well as other factors.

tekknik 5y ago

> 100 years ago IS modern times. This is quite a bit subjective. If the statement was from prior to 100 years ago then that's my mistake. Perhaps we should say specific periods instead of subjective terms. > The population wasn't 7.8 billion 100 years ago. You have to plot your data as a function of time. If the claim that population is controlled via wars and famine, then the current population of 7.8 billion was not effected by this. The evidence is in that large number. Not that 228 mil is a low percentage of 7.8 billion, but that if this is in fact a sink then it's inefficient. > But also, you are off by a great deal for the 20th century. World War II claimed 80 million+ lives. World War I 40 million+, alone. Not even factoring for civil wars, Vietnam, African wars, and violent purges in USSR and China. Thanks for the updated data. And I agree that if we rewind more through history this may have been true. If modern times means >=1500 then ok. Modern times to me means some percentage of my life given the rate of change of the world I've experience as well as other factors.