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> Not sure how competing with firms with the exact same business model on Clutch requires VC funding, but OK. Best of luck. We are not competing with agencies

> Not sure how competing with firms with the exact same business model on Clutch requires VC funding, but OK. Best of luck. We are not competing with agencies from Clutch, that's our second target audience after startups. We help agencies scale faster while working with designers on the platform. Awesomic is not an agency, it's a super simple tool where you can start working with a designer on the same day. And then constantly receive everyday updates on your design task. Why do we need VC? Because we have 0 design managers and have no plans to hire ones. Instead, everything is managed by our product – platform. Most of the tasks are matched automatically by an algorithm. And for the designer – Awesomic is a better solution versus platforms like Upwork or Fiverr. Designers don't like to hunt for the next freelance project, feel insecure to negotiate, but they are passionate about design. So Awesomic gives them what they want while caring about everything else.

andrewmcwatters 5y ago
I understand that, but I’m the guy you’re selling to, and I don’t see any difference. I need quality resources, and you can’t avoid the fact that you’re sourcing labor at the end of the day. You’re effectively an agency to me. I pay you for labor. Whether I pay for labor on Upwork or your platform or an outsourcing agency makes absolutely no difference to me. I look at all of them as resource funnels. And frankly, I don’t want to work with kids who call their company fucking awesome. Are you going to take my business needs seriously? Imagine if Bloomberg called his company Jack-Off Capital. Or if Walmart called their business Cheap Bastards. Is labor arbitrage fucking awesome? You bet. For the owners. You should call your company fuck the little guy. At least in western culture we don’t intentionally bring undue attention to the fact that we’re offshoring labor beyond a business transaction.
- dang 5y ago
  Hey, please don't break the site guidelines. You can make your substantive points without crossing into this sort of attack. The nationalistic swipe at the end is particularly not cool. We've had to ask you this sort of thing more than once before. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this going forward, we'd appreciate it.
  - andrewmcwatters 5y ago
    I understand you’re particularly sensitive as an administrator to nationalistic comments, but I would appreciate it if you didn’t categorize my matter-of-fact statement as some sort of nationalistic sentiment.
    - dang 5y ago
      That wasn't a matter-of-fact statement—it was an us-vs.them swipe drawing a line ("western culture") which itself is already provocative in this context. Also, please don't ignore the other ways in which you broke the site guidelines with your post.
      - andrewmcwatters 5y ago
        It was a matter-of-fact statement. Observational life will show you that we don't call out the fact that we arbitrage labor. Tim Cook doesn't tell customers that Apple keeps prices attractive enough by utilizing cheap Asian labor. It is tasteless. If you find my statements to be "us-versus-them," that's your opinion, but I would find no fault in what these people are doing if they were Americans versus Ukrainians. I find fault in how immature the business approach is. I acknowledge that I am not being nice. Neither is building a business, arbitraging labor and calling it awesome that you can exploit workers globally. But you suggest to me that you believe otherwise. Is that not a fair opinion? Besides, you call my comments nationalistic when they are clearly not. A nationalistic comment would be, "Western culture is superior because we do not..." versus an observational statement which is "In western culture we do not..." However, it's a common theme here that posters, versus commenters, have favoritism preemptively due to the good faith guideline. So, believe me, I'm well aware of them. But if I posted an article here that wasn't nice, you would, by these guidelines, expect me to just be nice, and yet that's not how the world works, and plenty of posters here call out things all the time. It's a strange dynamic to assume otherwise.
        walteweiss 5y ago
        I agree with this commenter, and I see nothing nationalistic in their statement.

andrewmcwatters 5y ago

I understand that, but I’m the guy you’re selling to, and I don’t see any difference. I need quality resources, and you can’t avoid the fact that you’re sourcing labor at the end of the day. You’re effectively an agency to me. I pay you for labor. Whether I pay for labor on Upwork or your platform or an outsourcing agency makes absolutely no difference to me. I look at all of them as resource funnels. And frankly, I don’t want to work with kids who call their company fucking awesome. Are you going to take my business needs seriously? Imagine if Bloomberg called his company Jack-Off Capital. Or if Walmart called their business Cheap Bastards. Is labor arbitrage fucking awesome? You bet. For the owners. You should call your company fuck the little guy. At least in western culture we don’t intentionally bring undue attention to the fact that we’re offshoring labor beyond a business transaction.

dang 5y ago
Hey, please don't break the site guidelines. You can make your substantive points without crossing into this sort of attack. The nationalistic swipe at the end is particularly not cool. We've had to ask you this sort of thing more than once before. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this going forward, we'd appreciate it.
- andrewmcwatters 5y ago
  I understand you’re particularly sensitive as an administrator to nationalistic comments, but I would appreciate it if you didn’t categorize my matter-of-fact statement as some sort of nationalistic sentiment.
  - dang 5y ago
    That wasn't a matter-of-fact statement—it was an us-vs.them swipe drawing a line ("western culture") which itself is already provocative in this context. Also, please don't ignore the other ways in which you broke the site guidelines with your post.
    - andrewmcwatters 5y ago
      It was a matter-of-fact statement. Observational life will show you that we don't call out the fact that we arbitrage labor. Tim Cook doesn't tell customers that Apple keeps prices attractive enough by utilizing cheap Asian labor. It is tasteless. If you find my statements to be "us-versus-them," that's your opinion, but I would find no fault in what these people are doing if they were Americans versus Ukrainians. I find fault in how immature the business approach is. I acknowledge that I am not being nice. Neither is building a business, arbitraging labor and calling it awesome that you can exploit workers globally. But you suggest to me that you believe otherwise. Is that not a fair opinion? Besides, you call my comments nationalistic when they are clearly not. A nationalistic comment would be, "Western culture is superior because we do not..." versus an observational statement which is "In western culture we do not..." However, it's a common theme here that posters, versus commenters, have favoritism preemptively due to the good faith guideline. So, believe me, I'm well aware of them. But if I posted an article here that wasn't nice, you would, by these guidelines, expect me to just be nice, and yet that's not how the world works, and plenty of posters here call out things all the time. It's a strange dynamic to assume otherwise.
      - walteweiss 5y ago
        I agree with this commenter, and I see nothing nationalistic in their statement.