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It looks like the primary redeeming tab groups feature could've been implemented as a browser extension which I personally still wouldn't use as I don't see tha

by mythz 5y ago

It looks like the primary redeeming tab groups feature could've been implemented as a browser extension which I personally still wouldn't use as I don't see that it adds any value over my current natural setup of having my "tab groups" basically grouped across across multiple browser windows and virtual desktops. So all sites I frequent are already open and I just use the OS shortcuts for opening the preferred browser window and CTRL+NUM to navigate tabs which IMO beats twiddling with a permanent sidebar that takes up valuable real-estate. It seems like what sets this browser apart is it wanting to charge $15/mo for a platform restricted browser with a tiny featureset and no extensions? Even free, it'd be hard to justify why anyone would choose to use it over other indie browsers like Vivaldi and its history of constantly shipping novel features. To justify charging any $$ would require providing some kind of premium hosting service like a secure VPN, but even that should be no more than $5/mo. $15 /mo would be more than I'm paying for any software, even more than my JetBrains All Products Pack subscription (with continuity discount) for which I'm currently making use of 11 of their best-in-class products - Unfortunately I don't see anything here to justify anywhere near $15 /mo. Although I really can't see myself ever paying a subscription to use a browser so I'm definitely not the target market.

Osiris 5y ago
Also tab grouping already exists in the free Vivaldi browser so it's an even less compelling feature to pay for.
- AkshitGarg 5y ago
  Tab groups also exist in chrome, brave and edge (was behind a flag last time I checked), and presumably other chromium-based browsers too
  - sixothree 5y ago
    I use tab groups on Edge. I consider it a killer feature. I especially like the auto group feature. I start a search and every link I open in a new tab is added to the group (which is collapsible). I do a lot of spec digging doe my work. It’s not uncommon to have 3 or 4 tabs per data type with many data types.
  - bugmen0t 5y ago
    And Firefox
    - shiloa 5y ago
      I'm familiar with it as extensions, and not completely happy with any - lacking keyboard shortcuts, losing some of my tabs/groups, no synching across devices, multiple backgrounded tabs still running and killing performance and other issues. Was it added to the core browser?
  - threatofrain 5y ago
    Since the app is launching on Apple's ecosystem, it also makes sense to compare to Safari where we're already getting tab groups and syncing. Plus, there's the usual stuff of password management, email aliases (nice for not giving out your email), and private relay, which is basically TOR lite for grandma. And what about ad blocking?
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      Normally we don't compare real browsers to Safari for fear of completely embarrassing it. Are you suggesting we pull the gloves off? Monterey has given me all sorts of gripes that I'd love to get out, I was just hoping an HN thread wouldn't be the place.
      - Grustaf 5y ago
        Safari is not a real browser? I've been using it exclusively for half almost a decade, working as a developer and in finance. What have I missed?
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by mythz 5y ago

Osiris 5y ago

Also tab grouping already exists in the free Vivaldi browser so it's an even less compelling feature to pay for.

AkshitGarg 5y ago
Tab groups also exist in chrome, brave and edge (was behind a flag last time I checked), and presumably other chromium-based browsers too
- sixothree 5y ago
  I use tab groups on Edge. I consider it a killer feature. I especially like the auto group feature. I start a search and every link I open in a new tab is added to the group (which is collapsible). I do a lot of spec digging doe my work. It’s not uncommon to have 3 or 4 tabs per data type with many data types.
- bugmen0t 5y ago
  And Firefox
  - shiloa 5y ago
    I'm familiar with it as extensions, and not completely happy with any - lacking keyboard shortcuts, losing some of my tabs/groups, no synching across devices, multiple backgrounded tabs still running and killing performance and other issues. Was it added to the core browser?
- threatofrain 5y ago
  Since the app is launching on Apple's ecosystem, it also makes sense to compare to Safari where we're already getting tab groups and syncing. Plus, there's the usual stuff of password management, email aliases (nice for not giving out your email), and private relay, which is basically TOR lite for grandma. And what about ad blocking?
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Normally we don't compare real browsers to Safari for fear of completely embarrassing it. Are you suggesting we pull the gloves off? Monterey has given me all sorts of gripes that I'd love to get out, I was just hoping an HN thread wouldn't be the place.
    - Grustaf 5y ago
      Safari is not a real browser? I've been using it exclusively for half almost a decade, working as a developer and in finance. What have I missed?

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