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Well, not the iPhone, but Apple's marketing. We had everything the iPhone did with Windows Mobile. Hell, even Symbian did fine. They were just aimed at "profess

by bserge 5y ago

Well, not the iPhone, but Apple's marketing. We had everything the iPhone did with Windows Mobile. Hell, even Symbian did fine. They were just aimed at "professionals" and completely ignored consumers.

soylentcola 5y ago
Yeah...I remember the iPhone release. I was so jealous of the capacitive screen and solidly implemented graphics acceleration. But compared to the HTC WinMo phone I had at the time, it was missing such futuristic capabilities as 3G data, GPS for turn-by-turn nav, 3rd party apps, copy/paste, MMS, background apps, front camera (although it was less important because video calls on 2G was a non-starter), and the ability to even change your background or ringer to something that didn't ship with the thing. Definitely glad that others were soon to follow with the more modern displays, because the first iPhones themselves were like a step back in many other ways compared to the Palms, Blackberrys, and PocketPCs of the day.
- bserge 5y ago
  At the time I had a Tytn II, which had all of those. Guess that's why I never got the iPhone.
  - soylentcola 5y ago
    I also had one of these (that's what I was referring to). Between that and AT&T exclusivity in the US (right after all the domestic wiretapping info became public) it just wasn't an option for me at the time.
toast0 5y ago
Did Windows Mobile have firmware updates independent of carriers? AFAIK, Symbian didn't. Getting updates on the regular changed the world (not always for the better)
- bserge 5y ago
  Both of them did. You updated it yourself. Ffs
908B64B197 5y ago
No apps.
- bserge 5y ago
  You can't be serious... Do you think they just had a preset number of programs and that's it? Windows Mobile (and even fking Pocket PC) had text editors, browsers, music and video players, file management and transfer tools, GPS software, painting tools, etc. Granted, you needed three cells in your brain to, gasp, install apps yourself, but they were available.

by bserge 5y ago

soylentcola 5y ago

Yeah...I remember the iPhone release. I was so jealous of the capacitive screen and solidly implemented graphics acceleration. But compared to the HTC WinMo phone I had at the time, it was missing such futuristic capabilities as 3G data, GPS for turn-by-turn nav, 3rd party apps, copy/paste, MMS, background apps, front camera (although it was less important because video calls on 2G was a non-starter), and the ability to even change your background or ringer to something that didn't ship with the thing. Definitely glad that others were soon to follow with the more modern displays, because the first iPhones themselves were like a step back in many other ways compared to the Palms, Blackberrys, and PocketPCs of the day.

bserge 5y ago
At the time I had a Tytn II, which had all of those. Guess that's why I never got the iPhone.
- soylentcola 5y ago
  I also had one of these (that's what I was referring to). Between that and AT&T exclusivity in the US (right after all the domestic wiretapping info became public) it just wasn't an option for me at the time.

toast0 5y ago

Did Windows Mobile have firmware updates independent of carriers? AFAIK, Symbian didn't. Getting updates on the regular changed the world (not always for the better)

bserge 5y ago
Both of them did. You updated it yourself. Ffs

908B64B197 5y ago

No apps.

bserge 5y ago
You can't be serious... Do you think they just had a preset number of programs and that's it? Windows Mobile (and even fking Pocket PC) had text editors, browsers, music and video players, file management and transfer tools, GPS software, painting tools, etc. Granted, you needed three cells in your brain to, gasp, install apps yourself, but they were available.