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Fair point, can't convince you we're trustworthy just by telling you, but I can still say it anyways :P We don't use keyloggers. We don't sell your data. If w

Fair point, can't convince you we're trustworthy just by telling you, but I can still say it anyways :P We don't use keyloggers. We don't sell your data. If we did, it would be a breach of our privacy policy and you could sue us, right? (Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p)

wizzwizz4 5y ago
> Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p This is the strongest, most credible privacy guarantee, imo. Ask your lawyer to make you as ridiculously vulnerable as possible, perhaps with a small “good faith error” clause. When you get big, you will turn evil. Bind the company now, and it will remain trustworthy for many more years.
- sauravmitra 5y ago
  Honestly, agree 100%. How do you communicate that to users though? The trust is hard to gain.
  - wizzwizz4 5y ago
    You don't need to communicate it to users. If they ask, and you can truthfully reply: > We are contractually forbidden from doing this, and if we do, you're entitled to [insert compensation plan that would cripple the company, without a private equity-style (or other) takeover being able to game it for profit] – on top of any legal obligations. then they'll probably sing your praises… if they believe you. So maybe publish a blog post or something about how you bullet-proofed the commitment (with lots of details)? Added bonus: I'd learn how you managed it, because it's too hard a legal problem for my amateur mind to solve.
    - sauravmitra 5y ago
      if they believe us, indeed :p Hey, if we figure out how to do that, I'll make a post outlining how to do it for others as well :)
threatofrain 5y ago
Is this how you defend your marketing claims on privacy? Sue us if we have a data breach?
- MahyadGhassemi 5y ago
  Well it is not a marketing claim, everything is stored locally on your device for now, and later would be using Apple’s cloud system for cross device syncing. A data breach is very different from us misusing your data or monetizing it to be clear
- sauravmitra 5y ago
  Haha, not how I meant to phrase it at least. I was merely pointing out that I can't convince you when I say that "we handle your data safely", so was proposing another reasoning for why we have to make sure any and all data is handled properly.

wizzwizz4 5y ago

> Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p This is the strongest, most credible privacy guarantee, imo. Ask your lawyer to make you as ridiculously vulnerable as possible, perhaps with a small “good faith error” clause. When you get big, you will turn evil. Bind the company now, and it will remain trustworthy for many more years.

sauravmitra 5y ago
Honestly, agree 100%. How do you communicate that to users though? The trust is hard to gain.
- wizzwizz4 5y ago
  You don't need to communicate it to users. If they ask, and you can truthfully reply: > We are contractually forbidden from doing this, and if we do, you're entitled to [insert compensation plan that would cripple the company, without a private equity-style (or other) takeover being able to game it for profit] – on top of any legal obligations. then they'll probably sing your praises… if they believe you. So maybe publish a blog post or something about how you bullet-proofed the commitment (with lots of details)? Added bonus: I'd learn how you managed it, because it's too hard a legal problem for my amateur mind to solve.
  - sauravmitra 5y ago
    if they believe us, indeed :p Hey, if we figure out how to do that, I'll make a post outlining how to do it for others as well :)

threatofrain 5y ago

Is this how you defend your marketing claims on privacy? Sue us if we have a data breach?

MahyadGhassemi 5y ago
Well it is not a marketing claim, everything is stored locally on your device for now, and later would be using Apple’s cloud system for cross device syncing. A data breach is very different from us misusing your data or monetizing it to be clear
sauravmitra 5y ago
Haha, not how I meant to phrase it at least. I was merely pointing out that I can't convince you when I say that "we handle your data safely", so was proposing another reasoning for why we have to make sure any and all data is handled properly.