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Clickbaity title IMO. Video summary: the reporter visits some company that makes lab-grown chicken meat. They use some cells from the chicken feathers. They fee

Clickbaity title IMO. Video summary: the reporter visits some company that makes lab-grown chicken meat. They use some cells from the chicken feathers. They feed them with nutrients and grow them into something that looks like a minced chicken. At the end of the video, the reporter is trying a deep-fried chicken nugget out of it and saying that it tastes just like a real thing.

cassianoleal 5y ago
> it tastes just like a real thing Well, given that chicken is mostly tasteless, and nuggets are highly flavoured to make them appealing, that's not surprising at all. Might have been made out of cardboard if you can mix it with the right things to get the consistency close.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
  Even if it's true that you could make non-chicken things taste like chicken, the important bit is that in this case they made lab-grown chicken meat taste like chicken. That is an important distinction. I also question whether making things taste like chicken is quite as easy as you describe. If it is, then all the folks making vegetarian chicken substitutes that don't taste very much like chicken have some explaining to do.
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
    > they made lab-grown chicken meat taste like chicken That's not what the video demonstrates. The video demonstrates that they made chicken nuggets made from lab grown meat taste like real chicken nuggets. > all the folks making vegetarian chicken substitutes that don't taste very much like chicken Are there really no vegetarian substitutes for nuggets that taste the same?
    - swiley 5y ago
      Considering that the principle ingredient in chicken nuggets is chicken, no there are none and there never will be.
    - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
      I can't prove nonexistence, but the ones I've had are not very close. Beyond apparently tried in the early '10s but the product was not well reviewed. They just released a new type of tender that is apparently much better. Nonetheless, the fact that even companies that are dedicated to making high fidelity plant-based meat replicas have failed before suggests this is not an easy problem.
      - cassianoleal 5y ago
        Are you sure the problem was taste, as opposed to other characteristics, like consistency, chewiness, how moist it is, etc? There are confounding factors. This thread is about taste / flavour alone.
        asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
        This thread is not just about taste. That was the word used in one of the comments, but in the video in question, the reporter said she "wouldn't know the difference." The operative question here is the development of a workable substitute for chicken meat, not the ability to isolate its flavor. My only contention is that this is not trivial, the way the first respondent claimed it was.
        cassianoleal 5y ago
        > This thread is not just about taste. Wrong. The thread that started with my comment was specifically responding to "it tastes just like a real thing". > That was the word used in one of the comments, but in the video in question, the reporter said she "wouldn't know the difference." Fair point. I didn't watch the video (unfortunately I can't at the moment), so I was responding specifically to the parent comment. That's on me.
- gnagatomo 5y ago
  This already happened. The Federal Police uncovered that Brazilian company JBS, the largest meat processing company in the world[0], was selling rotten beef and minced meat mixed with minced cardboard[1][2]. People didn't noticed until news came in. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A. [1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39311336 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39311336 [2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/world/americas/brazil-food-companies-bribe-scandal-salmonella.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/world/americas/brazil-foo...
- archibaldJ 5y ago
  > given that chicken is mostly tasteless This is a huge misunderstanding. Chickens only are tasteless if you are eating tasteless chickens. Despite cooking it the same way, the Kampong chicken in Malaysia tastes very different from the chicken served in an osteria chilometro zero in rural Italy, which once again is distinct from the HuNan mountain chickens found in rural China. And don't get me started on chicken in the Kyoto countryside, which was one of the most surprising things in my trip to Japan. Never knew chicken can taste like that.
  - jghn 5y ago
    Exactly. A while back I started getting all (well, most) of my meat from a local farm. This farm does the whole happy animals raised right thing. Flavor-wise, there are 2 things that keep me coming back for more. 1) The chicken doesn't just have flavor, it tastes good. 2) The fat in the pork is freaking delicious.
  - cassianoleal 5y ago
    Oh that's fair enough. In Brazil you can get "galinha caipira" which is a kinda free-range but turned up to 11. The meat is brown in colour, very dense and quite chewy, and if properly prepared salt is enough for it to taste great! That's not usually what people mean when they say "tastes like chicked" though.
t0rt01se 5y ago
The cells in chicken feathers are live?

cassianoleal 5y ago

> it tastes just like a real thing Well, given that chicken is mostly tasteless, and nuggets are highly flavoured to make them appealing, that's not surprising at all. Might have been made out of cardboard if you can mix it with the right things to get the consistency close.

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
Even if it's true that you could make non-chicken things taste like chicken, the important bit is that in this case they made lab-grown chicken meat taste like chicken. That is an important distinction. I also question whether making things taste like chicken is quite as easy as you describe. If it is, then all the folks making vegetarian chicken substitutes that don't taste very much like chicken have some explaining to do.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
  > they made lab-grown chicken meat taste like chicken That's not what the video demonstrates. The video demonstrates that they made chicken nuggets made from lab grown meat taste like real chicken nuggets. > all the folks making vegetarian chicken substitutes that don't taste very much like chicken Are there really no vegetarian substitutes for nuggets that taste the same?
  - swiley 5y ago
    Considering that the principle ingredient in chicken nuggets is chicken, no there are none and there never will be.
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
    I can't prove nonexistence, but the ones I've had are not very close. Beyond apparently tried in the early '10s but the product was not well reviewed. They just released a new type of tender that is apparently much better. Nonetheless, the fact that even companies that are dedicated to making high fidelity plant-based meat replicas have failed before suggests this is not an easy problem.
    - cassianoleal 5y ago
      Are you sure the problem was taste, as opposed to other characteristics, like consistency, chewiness, how moist it is, etc? There are confounding factors. This thread is about taste / flavour alone.
      - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
        This thread is not just about taste. That was the word used in one of the comments, but in the video in question, the reporter said she "wouldn't know the difference." The operative question here is the development of a workable substitute for chicken meat, not the ability to isolate its flavor. My only contention is that this is not trivial, the way the first respondent claimed it was.
        cassianoleal 5y ago
        > This thread is not just about taste. Wrong. The thread that started with my comment was specifically responding to "it tastes just like a real thing". > That was the word used in one of the comments, but in the video in question, the reporter said she "wouldn't know the difference." Fair point. I didn't watch the video (unfortunately I can't at the moment), so I was responding specifically to the parent comment. That's on me.
gnagatomo 5y ago
This already happened. The Federal Police uncovered that Brazilian company JBS, the largest meat processing company in the world[0], was selling rotten beef and minced meat mixed with minced cardboard[1][2]. People didn't noticed until news came in. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A. [1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39311336 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39311336 [2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/world/americas/brazil-food-companies-bribe-scandal-salmonella.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/world/americas/brazil-foo...
archibaldJ 5y ago
> given that chicken is mostly tasteless This is a huge misunderstanding. Chickens only are tasteless if you are eating tasteless chickens. Despite cooking it the same way, the Kampong chicken in Malaysia tastes very different from the chicken served in an osteria chilometro zero in rural Italy, which once again is distinct from the HuNan mountain chickens found in rural China. And don't get me started on chicken in the Kyoto countryside, which was one of the most surprising things in my trip to Japan. Never knew chicken can taste like that.
- jghn 5y ago
  Exactly. A while back I started getting all (well, most) of my meat from a local farm. This farm does the whole happy animals raised right thing. Flavor-wise, there are 2 things that keep me coming back for more. 1) The chicken doesn't just have flavor, it tastes good. 2) The fat in the pork is freaking delicious.
- cassianoleal 5y ago
  Oh that's fair enough. In Brazil you can get "galinha caipira" which is a kinda free-range but turned up to 11. The meat is brown in colour, very dense and quite chewy, and if properly prepared salt is enough for it to taste great! That's not usually what people mean when they say "tastes like chicked" though.

t0rt01se 5y ago

The cells in chicken feathers are live?