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From what I gather Pakistan has never been a good ally to the US. Still they receive both military and humanitarian aid to the tune of billions each year. And

From what I gather Pakistan has never been a good ally to the US. Still they receive both military and humanitarian aid to the tune of billions each year. And they were the ones sheltering Bin Laden and from what I can gather the ISI - Pakistani intelligence is the ones funding Taliban. It strikes me as very strange that the US hasn't pressured Pakistan more over the years and that it has accepted this behavior all this time.

silurian 5y ago
Pakistan has never been a good ally to anyone but Muslim majority countries and Islamic terrorist groups. Pakistan is now heavily indebted and dependent on China for economy, military and finance. They will reap what they sow. In 20 years time, they will be begging the West & Western institutions for assistance & intervention and I hope we can all turn our back on them.
- dang 5y ago
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hamburgerwah 5y ago
The problem is how much shit will we put up with to stop an islamic majority nuclear power from collapsing into the hands of a jihad leaning ideology. Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, is very good at playing the game of "Boy it'd be a shame if this nuclear information/material were to fall into the hands of say, the iranians. Did you know we could really use some money for fighter jets to help defend us from india?" There are no good options in this region.
- icemelt8 5y ago
  so much misinformation, US has stopped selling fighter jets long time ago, the billions in aid is a myth, US should take responsibility for Afghanistan. Pakistan is a poor nation of 200 million people, if that country's agencies somehow did a proxy war that defeated the combined military might of the 20 top nations, then this is a moment for them to reflect not deflect.
- ikerdanzel 5y ago
  The correct strategy is not to conquer but to cull. From time to time, US should just send military in to render to site as vast land of death and pity-ness say under a week. Repeat this periodically over 50 years. No forces on earth would be able to sustain that even if Russian and Chinese combine forces. Sharp and devastating destruction played over years is extremely effective and much affordable than the current Afghan and Iraq 2 decades of debacles.
hack-news 5y ago
You nearly have it figured out :)

silurian 5y ago

Pakistan has never been a good ally to anyone but Muslim majority countries and Islamic terrorist groups. Pakistan is now heavily indebted and dependent on China for economy, military and finance. They will reap what they sow. In 20 years time, they will be begging the West & Western institutions for assistance & intervention and I hope we can all turn our back on them.

dang 5y ago
You can't use HN for nationalistic (or religious) flamewar. We ban accounts that do, and I've banned this account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. It will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

hamburgerwah 5y ago

The problem is how much shit will we put up with to stop an islamic majority nuclear power from collapsing into the hands of a jihad leaning ideology. Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, is very good at playing the game of "Boy it'd be a shame if this nuclear information/material were to fall into the hands of say, the iranians. Did you know we could really use some money for fighter jets to help defend us from india?" There are no good options in this region.

icemelt8 5y ago
so much misinformation, US has stopped selling fighter jets long time ago, the billions in aid is a myth, US should take responsibility for Afghanistan. Pakistan is a poor nation of 200 million people, if that country's agencies somehow did a proxy war that defeated the combined military might of the 20 top nations, then this is a moment for them to reflect not deflect.
ikerdanzel 5y ago
The correct strategy is not to conquer but to cull. From time to time, US should just send military in to render to site as vast land of death and pity-ness say under a week. Repeat this periodically over 50 years. No forces on earth would be able to sustain that even if Russian and Chinese combine forces. Sharp and devastating destruction played over years is extremely effective and much affordable than the current Afghan and Iraq 2 decades of debacles.

hack-news 5y ago

You nearly have it figured out :)