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Today, there is at least one of the most advanced Neural Networks entering each car: A human being. If we could just implement the AI to add to this person and

Today, there is at least one of the most advanced Neural Networks entering each car: A human being. If we could just implement the AI to add to this person and not replace it...

salawat 5y ago
This is the bit nobody likes to realize. FSD at it's best...is still about as fallible as a human driver. Minus free will (it is hoped). I will be amused, intrigued, and possibly a bit horrified if by the time FSD hits level 5, and they stick with the Neural Net of Neural Nets architecture if there isn't a rash of system induced variance in behavior as emergent phenomena take shape. Imagined news: All Tesla's on I-95 engaged in creating patterns whereby all non-Teala traffic was bordered by a Tesla on each side. Almost like a game of Go, says expert. Researchers stumped. Then again, that's imply you had an NN capable of retraining itself on the fly to some limited degree, which I assume no one sane would put into service... Hopefully this comment doesn't suffer a date of not aging well.
ben_w 5y ago
What would such an AI even look like? If it spots every real danger but also hallucinates even a few dangers that aren’t really there, it gets ignored or switched off for needlessly slowing the traveler down (false positives, apparently an issue with early Google examples [0]); if it only spots real dangers but misses most of them, it is not helping (false negatives, even worse if a human is blindly assuming the machine knows best and what happened with e.g. Uber [1]); if it’s about the same as humans overall but makes different types of mistake, people rely on it right up until it crashes then go apoplectic because it didn’t see something any human would consider obvious (e.g. Tesla, which gets slightly safer when the AI is active, but people keep showing the AI getting confused about things that they consider obvious [2]). [0] https://theoatmeal.com/blog/google_self_driving_car https://theoatmeal.com/blog/google_self_driving_car [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg [2] https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz6Ins1D9ak https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz6Ins1D9ak

Today, there is at least one of the most advanced Neural Networks entering each car: A human being. If we could just implement the AI to add to this person and not replace it...

salawat 5y ago

This is the bit nobody likes to realize. FSD at it's best...is still about as fallible as a human driver. Minus free will (it is hoped). I will be amused, intrigued, and possibly a bit horrified if by the time FSD hits level 5, and they stick with the Neural Net of Neural Nets architecture if there isn't a rash of system induced variance in behavior as emergent phenomena take shape. Imagined news: All Tesla's on I-95 engaged in creating patterns whereby all non-Teala traffic was bordered by a Tesla on each side. Almost like a game of Go, says expert. Researchers stumped. Then again, that's imply you had an NN capable of retraining itself on the fly to some limited degree, which I assume no one sane would put into service... Hopefully this comment doesn't suffer a date of not aging well.

ben_w 5y ago

What would such an AI even look like? If it spots every real danger but also hallucinates even a few dangers that aren’t really there, it gets ignored or switched off for needlessly slowing the traveler down (false positives, apparently an issue with early Google examples [0]); if it only spots real dangers but misses most of them, it is not helping (false negatives, even worse if a human is blindly assuming the machine knows best and what happened with e.g. Uber [1]); if it’s about the same as humans overall but makes different types of mistake, people rely on it right up until it crashes then go apoplectic because it didn’t see something any human would consider obvious (e.g. Tesla, which gets slightly safer when the AI is active, but people keep showing the AI getting confused about things that they consider obvious [2]). [0] https://theoatmeal.com/blog/google_self_driving_car https://theoatmeal.com/blog/google_self_driving_car [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg [2] https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz6Ins1D9ak https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz6Ins1D9ak