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I see a lot of features re-used from the N900 in Android and iOS. I think Maemo/N900 changed the world far more.

by noipv4 5y ago

ddalex 5y ago
I see the software keyboard layouts of Maemo everywhere :)
hargv 5y ago
I would say if you were going to elevate anything after the 9000 it should be the Symbian devices- i had a 6600 and a friend had a 6630 and those will to me always be the first "Smartphones" We played downloaded multiplayer games over Bluetooth in school, and though mine didn't have official mp3 functionality I downloaded the app used on later devices and used mine as an mp3 player. Even downloaded a bunch of roms for the ngage that ran just fine. In the end though the peak for me was Windows mobile, everything up to 6.5 was literally just a pc in your pocket, after that they made the mistake (imo) of trying to compete with apple and android for user experience and failed miserably. For my part I never wanted the improved UX- a start menu style system with a stylus was great for me. Nokias N900 was great, but in the end too niche to compete with HTC and Apple when they were pumping out androids and iPhones. I handled purchases at my work for smartphones and gave the HTC hero as suggestion for my colleagues since it was simpler and got a N900 for myself, and though I liked it a lot android certainly went a lot further in the end.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  I kept using Symbian until the end, Symbian Belle was quite nice, and with PIPS and Qt, Symbian C++ wasn't that bad. Also jumped into Windows Phones, as its development experience was miles ahead (still is) from whatever comes out of Google. With exception of Android, I never needed a "gaming rig/server configuration" for mobile development. Anyway it is what it is.
  - neurostimulant 5y ago
    I remember picking up a secondhand hp ipaq pocket pc and got my mind blown when I realized how easy it is to make an app for it. It's basically just plain old winform apps.
SeanLuke 5y ago
I can literally -- and I mean that word in the proper usage -- think of nothing in the N900 (or earlier models) that changed the world in any way. And I still own, and occasionally use, my N800. Prior to the iPhone the acme of portable touchscreen interface design was the Newton Messagepad 2100. Its interface was superior to Maemo in practically every way, despite being discontinued ten years prior. Maemo feels like a crappy, half-assed attempt to implement some of the Newton's magic on top of X11, and with weird desktop mouse-oriented design elements (menus, scroll bars, combo boxes, Windows-style tree-views, even cursors in some apps) bolted on awkwardly without any thought about their appropriateness to a tablet operating system. I wrote an extensive article comparing the two way back when, when I was doing a moderate number of contributions to the N800 platform. Maemo was amateurish at best, with an incredible array of inconsistent and obtuse iconography, several inconsistent sizes and designs for the same exact kind of GUI element (text buttons, icons, ), a complete lack of state persistence, absolutely horrible fonts, and a desperate need to be backward compatible with X11, hardly the best choice for a mobile OS GUI foundation. It was clearly built by linux software developers and not GUI designers. iOS didn't borrow anything from the N900: it borrowed directly from the Newton and from MacOS and NeXTSTEP, when it wasn't inventing things from whole cloth. Thankfully now Android has shown us that Linux can shine in the mobile pad market, if you jettison X, stupid archaic design elements from desktop GUIs, and design a consistent and organized interface from the ground up considering the needs of the device and and user.

I see a lot of features re-used from the N900 in Android and iOS. I think Maemo/N900 changed the world far more.

by noipv4 5y ago

I see a lot of features re-used from the N900 in Android and iOS. I think Maemo/N900 changed the world far more.

ddalex 5y ago

I see the software keyboard layouts of Maemo everywhere :)

hargv 5y ago

I would say if you were going to elevate anything after the 9000 it should be the Symbian devices- i had a 6600 and a friend had a 6630 and those will to me always be the first "Smartphones" We played downloaded multiplayer games over Bluetooth in school, and though mine didn't have official mp3 functionality I downloaded the app used on later devices and used mine as an mp3 player. Even downloaded a bunch of roms for the ngage that ran just fine. In the end though the peak for me was Windows mobile, everything up to 6.5 was literally just a pc in your pocket, after that they made the mistake (imo) of trying to compete with apple and android for user experience and failed miserably. For my part I never wanted the improved UX- a start menu style system with a stylus was great for me. Nokias N900 was great, but in the end too niche to compete with HTC and Apple when they were pumping out androids and iPhones. I handled purchases at my work for smartphones and gave the HTC hero as suggestion for my colleagues since it was simpler and got a N900 for myself, and though I liked it a lot android certainly went a lot further in the end.

pjmlp 5y ago
I kept using Symbian until the end, Symbian Belle was quite nice, and with PIPS and Qt, Symbian C++ wasn't that bad. Also jumped into Windows Phones, as its development experience was miles ahead (still is) from whatever comes out of Google. With exception of Android, I never needed a "gaming rig/server configuration" for mobile development. Anyway it is what it is.
- neurostimulant 5y ago
  I remember picking up a secondhand hp ipaq pocket pc and got my mind blown when I realized how easy it is to make an app for it. It's basically just plain old winform apps.

SeanLuke 5y ago

I can literally -- and I mean that word in the proper usage -- think of nothing in the N900 (or earlier models) that changed the world in any way. And I still own, and occasionally use, my N800. Prior to the iPhone the acme of portable touchscreen interface design was the Newton Messagepad 2100. Its interface was superior to Maemo in practically every way, despite being discontinued ten years prior. Maemo feels like a crappy, half-assed attempt to implement some of the Newton's magic on top of X11, and with weird desktop mouse-oriented design elements (menus, scroll bars, combo boxes, Windows-style tree-views, even cursors in some apps) bolted on awkwardly without any thought about their appropriateness to a tablet operating system. I wrote an extensive article comparing the two way back when, when I was doing a moderate number of contributions to the N800 platform. Maemo was amateurish at best, with an incredible array of inconsistent and obtuse iconography, several inconsistent sizes and designs for the same exact kind of GUI element (text buttons, icons, ), a complete lack of state persistence, absolutely horrible fonts, and a desperate need to be backward compatible with X11, hardly the best choice for a mobile OS GUI foundation. It was clearly built by linux software developers and not GUI designers. iOS didn't borrow anything from the N900: it borrowed directly from the Newton and from MacOS and NeXTSTEP, when it wasn't inventing things from whole cloth. Thankfully now Android has shown us that Linux can shine in the mobile pad market, if you jettison X, stupid archaic design elements from desktop GUIs, and design a consistent and organized interface from the ground up considering the needs of the device and and user.