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is it not easier to simply buy carbon offsets, if that's your actual concern in the first place? We will never replicate the real thing closely enough. Microbi

is it not easier to simply buy carbon offsets, if that's your actual concern in the first place? We will never replicate the real thing closely enough. Microbiome/proteome alone is going to be impossible, without all the small peptides and antibodies - it will never be the same. Milk itself isn't the healthiest food either. Cow milk is the most prevalent allergen, but it's mostly chronic inflammation instead of full blown anaphylaxis and thus ignored. You do not have to be lactose intolerant, it is true allergy to proteins in milk. https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nutrition/healthy-eating/dairy-and-inflammation https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/healthy-living/nut... Humans were not supposed to eat it. It was just something that helped us survive in frozen wastelands.

hannob 5y ago
> is it not easier to simply buy carbon offsets, if that's your actual concern in the first place? My concern is not my personal carbon footprint (I am very skeptical about the concept in general), my goal would be helping to make technologies available faster that can make a dent in societies carbon footprint as a whole. And carbon offsets are hugely problematic. I'm inclined to say the vast majority of them are close to being a scam.
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  skeptical about the concept in general...but want to make a dent in societies carbon footprint...? Doesn't personal footprint translate into societal footprint? Otherwise, nothing short of banning all food and force-feeding everyone bugs, or having a few world wars is going to make a dent.
  - AstralStorm 5y ago
    Eh, we can force feed everyone processed beans instead.
IneffablePigeon 5y ago
I buy carbon offsets to try to blunt my impact but I'd also pay a premium for more sustainable milk (and more importantly cheese) that was harder to distinguish. Carbon offsetting is a poor substitute for just not having a big carbon footprint to begin with. It's a sticking plaster at best, and incredibly hard to verify the impact of as an individual consumer.

hannob 5y ago

> is it not easier to simply buy carbon offsets, if that's your actual concern in the first place? My concern is not my personal carbon footprint (I am very skeptical about the concept in general), my goal would be helping to make technologies available faster that can make a dent in societies carbon footprint as a whole. And carbon offsets are hugely problematic. I'm inclined to say the vast majority of them are close to being a scam.

inter_netuser 5y ago
skeptical about the concept in general...but want to make a dent in societies carbon footprint...? Doesn't personal footprint translate into societal footprint? Otherwise, nothing short of banning all food and force-feeding everyone bugs, or having a few world wars is going to make a dent.
- AstralStorm 5y ago
  Eh, we can force feed everyone processed beans instead.

IneffablePigeon 5y ago

I buy carbon offsets to try to blunt my impact but I'd also pay a premium for more sustainable milk (and more importantly cheese) that was harder to distinguish. Carbon offsetting is a poor substitute for just not having a big carbon footprint to begin with. It's a sticking plaster at best, and incredibly hard to verify the impact of as an individual consumer.