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I think one of my favorite cases of bullshit was the 2 years spent investigating Trump for Russian collusion, and nothing happened despite "Anonymous sources sa

I think one of my favorite cases of bullshit was the 2 years spent investigating Trump for Russian collusion, and nothing happened despite "Anonymous sources say..." stories every week in the New York Times. The hilarious thing about watching this is is the seemingly coordinated narrative everywhere with everyone using the same phrase like they all are just repeating "the truth" from some central source where they write the teleprompter scripts. "The walls are closing in" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908 That's what the bullshit is. The almost identical media headlines and catch phrases everywhere. The 100s of identical bot tweets. Now I just read Telegram channels and I see the enormous anti-lockdown protests taking place worldwide. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people in France right now protesting vaccine passports across the country and nobody has heard about it because of a hermetically sealed mainstream media blackout. I come to Hacker News when I want to see what the propagandized classes who read whatever "news" app came with their phone are believing. Everyone here is pretty smart, you're just in Plato's cave looking at the shadows on the walls. The bottom line is, if you see that all your news sources are repeating each other, it may be time to diversify your news sources.

mjburgess 5y ago
A friend showed me one of these telegram videos, it was from Ukraine in 2014.
6tZAfJuXT2LL 5y ago
> hermetically sealed mainstream media blackout. I've seen this reported numerous times by "mainstream media", here's a recent one: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/protesters-france-denounce-covid-health-pass-rules-fifth-weekend-2021-08-14/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/protesters-france-denou...
- rcxdude 5y ago
  "The mainstream media aren't reporting this" is basically always false. It just makes the story more enticing to contrarians (who don't read the mainstream media anyway and aren't likely to check).
IIAOPSW 5y ago
>The bottom line is, if you see that all your news sources are repeating each other, it may be time to diversify your news sources. If one news source reports "this is a sphere", and another reports "this is a sphere", and yet a third reports "this is a sphere", then you better go find and listen to the crackpot insisting it's a cube. Otherwise it's a sure sign you're in a bias bubble. There is no underlying truth about the shape of the thing, so any similarity in reports must have come from the reporters being hacks and bullshitters. Why yes, I am very smart and a free thinker. Let me tell you how you must be in Plato's cave for accepting the sphere-narrative instead of my preferred cube-narrative. I wonder why I am perceived as arrogant and tedious?
- narrator 5y ago
  Yes your argument is brilliant!! Let me use your reasoning for a second: My post was the equivalent of "this is a sphere." Your reply is the equivalent of "this is a circle.". Thus, you are wrong. Why? Because math. If you want to argue like this, I'll be here all day. :). Btw, when you have two opposing viewpoints you are supposed to use your reasoning skills to determine truth, not apriori decide what is true as if it's an abstract math problem and stick your fingers in your ears so you don't hear any disturbing contradictions.
- Chris2048 5y ago
  OP specifies repetition of phrasing, not just the facts themselves, implying some degree of "coaching"/collusion or a common source (i.e. non-independence). > then you better go find and listen to the crackpot insisting it's a cube OP never implied this, this is a strawman intended to cheaply dismiss the point. > I wonder why I am perceived as arrogant and tedious? ^ followed by a personal attack..

mjburgess 5y ago

A friend showed me one of these telegram videos, it was from Ukraine in 2014.

6tZAfJuXT2LL 5y ago

> hermetically sealed mainstream media blackout. I've seen this reported numerous times by "mainstream media", here's a recent one: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/protesters-france-denounce-covid-health-pass-rules-fifth-weekend-2021-08-14/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/protesters-france-denou...

rcxdude 5y ago
"The mainstream media aren't reporting this" is basically always false. It just makes the story more enticing to contrarians (who don't read the mainstream media anyway and aren't likely to check).

IIAOPSW 5y ago

>The bottom line is, if you see that all your news sources are repeating each other, it may be time to diversify your news sources. If one news source reports "this is a sphere", and another reports "this is a sphere", and yet a third reports "this is a sphere", then you better go find and listen to the crackpot insisting it's a cube. Otherwise it's a sure sign you're in a bias bubble. There is no underlying truth about the shape of the thing, so any similarity in reports must have come from the reporters being hacks and bullshitters. Why yes, I am very smart and a free thinker. Let me tell you how you must be in Plato's cave for accepting the sphere-narrative instead of my preferred cube-narrative. I wonder why I am perceived as arrogant and tedious?

narrator 5y ago
Yes your argument is brilliant!! Let me use your reasoning for a second: My post was the equivalent of "this is a sphere." Your reply is the equivalent of "this is a circle.". Thus, you are wrong. Why? Because math. If you want to argue like this, I'll be here all day. :). Btw, when you have two opposing viewpoints you are supposed to use your reasoning skills to determine truth, not apriori decide what is true as if it's an abstract math problem and stick your fingers in your ears so you don't hear any disturbing contradictions.
Chris2048 5y ago
OP specifies repetition of phrasing, not just the facts themselves, implying some degree of "coaching"/collusion or a common source (i.e. non-independence). > then you better go find and listen to the crackpot insisting it's a cube OP never implied this, this is a strawman intended to cheaply dismiss the point. > I wonder why I am perceived as arrogant and tedious? ^ followed by a personal attack..