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Google Fi is resistant against SIM swapping[1]. They would have to hijack the google account associated with the Google Fi number in order to transfer the phone

by b8 5y ago

Google Fi is resistant against SIM swapping[1]. They would have to hijack the google account associated with the Google Fi number in order to transfer the phone number. I wonder if Google Fi customers PI is apart of this data dump. Since Google Fi uses T-Mobile networks[2]. 1. https://support.google.com/fi/answer/9834243?hl=en https://support.google.com/fi/answer/9834243?hl=en 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fi

tmp_anon_22 5y ago
If your account is deactivated on a separate google service (let's say, adsense) what happens to your Google Fi?
supertrope 5y ago
Now you're just vulnerable to Google shutting down your account with no recourse. It's rumored that can be triggered by a credit card decline due to fraud.
- b8 5y ago
  I presume that can also happen with T-Mobile, Verizon etc. As long as you follow the Terms of Service then you should be ok. I've read the stories on HN about people's Google account being supposedly arbitrary closed. But in the comments someone from Google usually replies that they investigated the incident and the account closure was valid. I would hope that Google would cancel the service and release the phone number if an account is closed. T-Mobile and Verizon has actual retail stores. But I doubt retail staff could actually help a customers account that was closed due to fraud etc. I chatted with a Google customer rep and they said that they could recover a phone number from a deleted Google account if the person still had the original sim card + a new Google account.
  - 542354234235 5y ago
    Yes, you should be ok. But if you aren’t, there is no mechanism for you to fix it or recourse to contest it. You are simply at the mercy of Google and what they decide to tell you and decide to provide to you. Maybe consumers should not have important services they rely on dropped arbitrarily. Maybe consumers deserve more than “Google said they investigated and said it was valid, so case closed”. Maybe rights and protections should not default to the massive powerful company, but to the individual with no a fraction of the resources. Maybe we should recognize that those two entities are not on equal footing and that maybe the burden should be on the entity with an army of lawyers and not the entity with no legal training.
- swiley 5y ago
  It can be triggered by resetting your password wrong. If hadn't been so "paranoid" I would have gotten totally fucked by that. You should always assume google accounts are temporary.

by b8 5y ago

tmp_anon_22 5y ago

If your account is deactivated on a separate google service (let's say, adsense) what happens to your Google Fi?

supertrope 5y ago

Now you're just vulnerable to Google shutting down your account with no recourse. It's rumored that can be triggered by a credit card decline due to fraud.

b8 5y ago
I presume that can also happen with T-Mobile, Verizon etc. As long as you follow the Terms of Service then you should be ok. I've read the stories on HN about people's Google account being supposedly arbitrary closed. But in the comments someone from Google usually replies that they investigated the incident and the account closure was valid. I would hope that Google would cancel the service and release the phone number if an account is closed. T-Mobile and Verizon has actual retail stores. But I doubt retail staff could actually help a customers account that was closed due to fraud etc. I chatted with a Google customer rep and they said that they could recover a phone number from a deleted Google account if the person still had the original sim card + a new Google account.
- 542354234235 5y ago
  Yes, you should be ok. But if you aren’t, there is no mechanism for you to fix it or recourse to contest it. You are simply at the mercy of Google and what they decide to tell you and decide to provide to you. Maybe consumers should not have important services they rely on dropped arbitrarily. Maybe consumers deserve more than “Google said they investigated and said it was valid, so case closed”. Maybe rights and protections should not default to the massive powerful company, but to the individual with no a fraction of the resources. Maybe we should recognize that those two entities are not on equal footing and that maybe the burden should be on the entity with an army of lawyers and not the entity with no legal training.
swiley 5y ago
It can be triggered by resetting your password wrong. If hadn't been so "paranoid" I would have gotten totally fucked by that. You should always assume google accounts are temporary.