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Cornell already had a full school year last year without any breakout cases, proving that this isn't the real trade-off being made. If individual students get s

Cornell already had a full school year last year without any breakout cases, proving that this isn't the real trade-off being made. If individual students get sick, of course, there are accommodations, but they are not to the detriment of the community as a whole being shut out of learning. Schools historically have had vaccine requirements. For some reason (for better or worse), requiring students to have yet another vaccine feels more reasonable than a private company mandating it for its employees.

sandworm101 5y ago
>> feels more reasonable than a private company mandating it for its employees. Lol. As universities take money from students this more like the company requiring its customers to be vaccinated. Whatever gets needles in arms imho.
- Hydraulix989 5y ago
  Sure, so the power dynamic is in students' favor to push back on something unreasonable, unlike with employees.
  - swiley 5y ago
    Leaving a job is easier than leaving a University IMO. Most don't accept transfers (especially when you've gotten to the 300/400 level classes.)
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      - swiley 5y ago
        The people paying the highest tuition are on student visas with similar constraints. I totally forgot about that, foreign tuition is an even larger profit motive to restrict distance learning.
TuringNYC 5y ago
>> Cornell already had a full school year last year without any breakout cases, proving that this isn't the real trade-off being made Could you elaborate on "full school year"? Honestly curious as a Cornell alum. The Cornell Daily Sun mentions that many classes were fully virtual for those opting on-campus and that many students did school remotely for the year. https://cornellsun.com/2020/10/14/remote-students-reflect-on-decision-to-stay-home-for-semester/ https://cornellsun.com/2020/10/14/remote-students-reflect-on... The Academic Year notice was vague about open/shut: https://finaid.cornell.edu/academic-year-2020-2021-statement-regarding-covid-19 https://finaid.cornell.edu/academic-year-2020-2021-statement...
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tzs 5y ago
This year the main variant of COVID in the US is the delta variant which has an R0 of around 7. The main COVID variant last year in the US had an R0 of around 3. That makes staying COVID-free this year is much more difficult.
- brador 5y ago
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  - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
    Where are you getting your numbers from? That's way higher than what I've seen reported anywhere else and sounds quite off.
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sandworm101 5y ago

>> feels more reasonable than a private company mandating it for its employees. Lol. As universities take money from students this more like the company requiring its customers to be vaccinated. Whatever gets needles in arms imho.

Hydraulix989 5y ago
Sure, so the power dynamic is in students' favor to push back on something unreasonable, unlike with employees.
- swiley 5y ago
  Leaving a job is easier than leaving a University IMO. Most don't accept transfers (especially when you've gotten to the 300/400 level classes.)
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    - swiley 5y ago
      The people paying the highest tuition are on student visas with similar constraints. I totally forgot about that, foreign tuition is an even larger profit motive to restrict distance learning.

TuringNYC 5y ago

>> Cornell already had a full school year last year without any breakout cases, proving that this isn't the real trade-off being made Could you elaborate on "full school year"? Honestly curious as a Cornell alum. The Cornell Daily Sun mentions that many classes were fully virtual for those opting on-campus and that many students did school remotely for the year. https://cornellsun.com/2020/10/14/remote-students-reflect-on-decision-to-stay-home-for-semester/ https://cornellsun.com/2020/10/14/remote-students-reflect-on... The Academic Year notice was vague about open/shut: https://finaid.cornell.edu/academic-year-2020-2021-statement-regarding-covid-19 https://finaid.cornell.edu/academic-year-2020-2021-statement...

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tzs 5y ago

This year the main variant of COVID in the US is the delta variant which has an R0 of around 7. The main COVID variant last year in the US had an R0 of around 3. That makes staying COVID-free this year is much more difficult.

brador 5y ago
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- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  Where are you getting your numbers from? That's way higher than what I've seen reported anywhere else and sounds quite off.
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