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Ok I'll try to be serious how exactly monopoly over GIFs would endanger users of social networks and industry in general? Except Facebook gathering your GIFs us

Ok I'll try to be serious how exactly monopoly over GIFs would endanger users of social networks and industry in general? Except Facebook gathering your GIFs usage data. Facebook would know what GIFs you use that's a big problem isn't it?! Why did they allow acquisition of Instagram and WhatsApp then? Makes zero sense to me. And if Facebook is not allowed to buy other social networks then Chinese will buy them. And then again we will be in the same situation just like we are with TikTok and Huawei. Data going to CCP and not to Corporate America. I prefer Corporate America over CCP to be honest.

barbazoo 5y ago
IP address and gif search term might be a valuable data point to add about a person.
- ljm 5y ago
  With the Slack integration, someone using `/giphy searchterm` will send over things like: slack enterprise ID, team ID, user ID, the team's domain, their name, the slack workspace's name, etc... Facebook could quite easily use that data to draw more connections between people. Who they work with, who they might know within the same teams and enterprises, etc. etc.
  - ec109685 5y ago
    No, that's incorrect. The giphy command is created by Slack and doesn't share any data with Giphy [1]. [1] https://medium.com/delta-cx/facebook-bought-giphy-but-doesnt-really-care-how-you-use-gifs-26e99514e5e7 https://medium.com/delta-cx/facebook-bought-giphy-but-doesnt...
    - crtasm 5y ago
      That says "...designed to give Giphy nearly zero data.", unclear what is still shared. Signal goes to great lengths to preserve privacy with their giphy integration: https://signal.org/blog/signal-and-giphy-update/ https://signal.org/blog/signal-and-giphy-update/
    - ljm 5y ago
      And at what point does FB use their considerable might to replace Slack's giphy bot with one that FB makes? The article basically says that Slack made a special case for Giphy, and so they decided that Giphy in particular doesn't get the same treatment as your typical slack bot or slash command. So, all FB needs to do is block that integration and either force their own or negotiate a new setup with slack. "You have a command called giphy and giphy is our trademark, so stop." The article you link to explains all of this, so I don't think you've refuted my point, really, except to say that it doesn't happen right now.
- mrkramer 5y ago
  Facebook already has it with or without Giphy.
  - croes 5y ago
    If you don't use any FB services they don't, but with Giphy any messenger using it could be forced.
croes 5y ago
FB could track a lot more through Giphy just like they do with their like buttons. It's too late to do something against the acquisition of WhatsApp and Instagram but maybe they have learned that's a huge mistake to let FB acquire such services. They are not obliged to repeat their mistakes.

barbazoo 5y ago

IP address and gif search term might be a valuable data point to add about a person.

ljm 5y ago
With the Slack integration, someone using `/giphy searchterm` will send over things like: slack enterprise ID, team ID, user ID, the team's domain, their name, the slack workspace's name, etc... Facebook could quite easily use that data to draw more connections between people. Who they work with, who they might know within the same teams and enterprises, etc. etc.
- ec109685 5y ago
  No, that's incorrect. The giphy command is created by Slack and doesn't share any data with Giphy [1]. [1] https://medium.com/delta-cx/facebook-bought-giphy-but-doesnt-really-care-how-you-use-gifs-26e99514e5e7 https://medium.com/delta-cx/facebook-bought-giphy-but-doesnt...
  - crtasm 5y ago
    That says "...designed to give Giphy nearly zero data.", unclear what is still shared. Signal goes to great lengths to preserve privacy with their giphy integration: https://signal.org/blog/signal-and-giphy-update/ https://signal.org/blog/signal-and-giphy-update/
  - ljm 5y ago
    And at what point does FB use their considerable might to replace Slack's giphy bot with one that FB makes? The article basically says that Slack made a special case for Giphy, and so they decided that Giphy in particular doesn't get the same treatment as your typical slack bot or slash command. So, all FB needs to do is block that integration and either force their own or negotiate a new setup with slack. "You have a command called giphy and giphy is our trademark, so stop." The article you link to explains all of this, so I don't think you've refuted my point, really, except to say that it doesn't happen right now.
mrkramer 5y ago
Facebook already has it with or without Giphy.
- croes 5y ago
  If you don't use any FB services they don't, but with Giphy any messenger using it could be forced.

croes 5y ago

FB could track a lot more through Giphy just like they do with their like buttons. It's too late to do something against the acquisition of WhatsApp and Instagram but maybe they have learned that's a huge mistake to let FB acquire such services. They are not obliged to repeat their mistakes.