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I know that we're not supposed to talk about the voting on comments [1] but I request that we make an exception here and pay attention to something interesting

I know that we're not supposed to talk about the voting on comments [1] but I request that we make an exception here and pay attention to something interesting that is happening in this discussion. baron_harkonnen (fitting name for this comment, BTW) explicitly says "People here talk about pessimism as if it's some rampant belief in society and the few optimists there are fighting against the hordes of the non-believer" and "Optimists also believe that someone questioning optimism it itself dangerous". It's therefore interesting to me that baron_harkonnen's comment is getting downvoted literally out of the optimist majority's sight. That seems to go against HN's culture of welcoming and respecting debate so long as the viewpoint seems to be genuine, non-inflammatory, etc. baron_harkonnen is expressing some bleak ideas (as is fitting for a pessimist) but it appears to be a genuine, non-inflammatory perspective. [1] From HN guidelines: "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."

charbonneau 5y ago
> C’est l’histoire d’un homme qui tombe d’un immeuble de 50 étages. Le mec, au fur et à mesure de sa chute, il se répète sans cesse pour se rassurer : « Jusqu’ici tout va bien... Jusqu’ici tout va bien... Jusqu’ici tout va bien. » Mais l’important, c’est pas la chute. C’est l’atterrissage. > This is a story of a man who is falling from a 50 story building. He, gradually during his fall, continuously reassures himself “so far, so good... so far so good... so far so good.” But what’s important is not the fall. It’s the landing.
- jjgreen 5y ago
  The opening lines of La Haine, if you haven't seen it, you should.
f00zz 5y ago
I guess it depends on the audience. Pretty sure that if the parent post were a Twitter thread it would get 32,000 RTs, as everyone seems to be a doomer on that site. Glad to know that HN is mostly in the optimist camp. As argued in the article, building things requires optimism.

charbonneau 5y ago

> C’est l’histoire d’un homme qui tombe d’un immeuble de 50 étages. Le mec, au fur et à mesure de sa chute, il se répète sans cesse pour se rassurer : « Jusqu’ici tout va bien... Jusqu’ici tout va bien... Jusqu’ici tout va bien. » Mais l’important, c’est pas la chute. C’est l’atterrissage. > This is a story of a man who is falling from a 50 story building. He, gradually during his fall, continuously reassures himself “so far, so good... so far so good... so far so good.” But what’s important is not the fall. It’s the landing.

jjgreen 5y ago
The opening lines of La Haine, if you haven't seen it, you should.

f00zz 5y ago

I guess it depends on the audience. Pretty sure that if the parent post were a Twitter thread it would get 32,000 RTs, as everyone seems to be a doomer on that site. Glad to know that HN is mostly in the optimist camp. As argued in the article, building things requires optimism.