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>>Which data am I dismissing? Can you provide it? Sure - here's just one citation about COVID-19 being in the top-10 causes of deaths for children. [1] Note t

by toss1 5y ago

>>Which data am I dismissing? Can you provide it? Sure - here's just one citation about COVID-19 being in the top-10 causes of deaths for children. [1] Note that this was in 2020, BEFORE the Delta variant existed. With Delta being far more contagious and causing deeper infection levels, especially different profiles in the young, this will not get better with Delta. Sure, getting a jab and a mask is mildly inconvenient, and might impose a bit on your expectation of a fully smooth and privileged life. But make no mistake, the fact that you are making those arguments in the way you make them shows that it is from every perspective,both current and historical, you are massively priveleged. The fact is that throughout history the demands of actual survival have, with only rare exceptions, imposed themselves on our lives. Full "self-actualization" is a luxury, not some basic right, and it is only available AFTER survival needs are met. This is a survival need. People far more expert, and with far more skin in the game are imploring us to take a few simple measures. Yet jokers like you endlessly whine, bitch, and moan about imagined harms that might come to you because it is a bit inconvenient. Get over yourself, contribute a bit to the general welfare, and you might find things get better. If you don't want your kids to wear a mask, keep them home. Stop imposing your idiocy on everyone else. In short, YOU are part of the problem, part of the reason we are having a massive spike, while, for example, Germany is not. Stop it. [1] https://www.wbrc.com/2021/05/23/covid-is-one-top-causes-death-children/ https://www.wbrc.com/2021/05/23/covid-is-one-top-causes-deat...

CryptoPunk 5y ago
>>Sure - here's just one citation about COVID-19 being in the top-10 causes of deaths for children. From your link: >>Officials with Children’s of Alabama said in 2020, the virus was one of the top 10 leading causes of death in children. >>“COVID is the tenth leading cause of death for children in the United States,” Dr. David Kimberlin with Children’s of Alabama said. “It is among most common causes of death in children and adolescents.” Covid being described as the 10th leading cause of death for children in a single state in a single year is very weak substantiation of your claim. First of all, at 10th place, it is the least significant cause of death among the top 10. This diminishes the potency of your statistical claim. For context, for the 1-4, 5-9 and 10-14 age groups, pneumonia/influenza are the 6th, 7th and 8th leading cause of death, respectively: https://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe https://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe So in Alabama, the response to influenza & pneumonia in children should be more drastic than the response to covid. Second, this is a single state, which could be an outlier, meaning this "10th leading cause of death in children" statistic, as unalarming as it is, may be an over-estimation of the nation-wide statistics. Do you have statistics showing how many children have died from covid in the US, or what the infection fatality rate for covid is for children? With resprct to the latter, the CDC says the IFR for children is only 0.002%, which is indeed EXTREMELY low: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... Do you find this significant, and justifying indefinite masking of all children during schooling hours? >>With Delta being far more contagious and causing deeper infection levels, especially different profiles in the young, this will not get better with Delta. In England, there were only 8 Delta variant deaths in the entire country for those under the age of 50 in the period under study: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/who-is-most-at-risk-from-the-delta-variant.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/who-is-most-at-risk-from-the... So I see plenty of evidence showing that your concerns are in fact unlikely to be realized. >>Get over yourself, contribute a bit to the general welfare, and you might find things get better. Take your own advice. Look at the evidence and stop preaching from a soapbox.

by toss1 5y ago

CryptoPunk 5y ago

>>Sure - here's just one citation about COVID-19 being in the top-10 causes of deaths for children. From your link: >>Officials with Children’s of Alabama said in 2020, the virus was one of the top 10 leading causes of death in children. >>“COVID is the tenth leading cause of death for children in the United States,” Dr. David Kimberlin with Children’s of Alabama said. “It is among most common causes of death in children and adolescents.” Covid being described as the 10th leading cause of death for children in a single state in a single year is very weak substantiation of your claim. First of all, at 10th place, it is the least significant cause of death among the top 10. This diminishes the potency of your statistical claim. For context, for the 1-4, 5-9 and 10-14 age groups, pneumonia/influenza are the 6th, 7th and 8th leading cause of death, respectively: https://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe https://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe So in Alabama, the response to influenza & pneumonia in children should be more drastic than the response to covid. Second, this is a single state, which could be an outlier, meaning this "10th leading cause of death in children" statistic, as unalarming as it is, may be an over-estimation of the nation-wide statistics. Do you have statistics showing how many children have died from covid in the US, or what the infection fatality rate for covid is for children? With resprct to the latter, the CDC says the IFR for children is only 0.002%, which is indeed EXTREMELY low: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... Do you find this significant, and justifying indefinite masking of all children during schooling hours? >>With Delta being far more contagious and causing deeper infection levels, especially different profiles in the young, this will not get better with Delta. In England, there were only 8 Delta variant deaths in the entire country for those under the age of 50 in the period under study: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/who-is-most-at-risk-from-the-delta-variant.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/who-is-most-at-risk-from-the... So I see plenty of evidence showing that your concerns are in fact unlikely to be realized. >>Get over yourself, contribute a bit to the general welfare, and you might find things get better. Take your own advice. Look at the evidence and stop preaching from a soapbox.