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>That covers enough to get you off of VirtualBox or whatever other bad hypervisor you’re using What's the problem with Virtualbox? Never had any problems with

>That covers enough to get you off of VirtualBox or whatever other bad hypervisor you’re using What's the problem with Virtualbox? Never had any problems with it, works perfectly. Please don't say Oracle = bad, that's not an answer

caslon 5y ago
It's slow as sin, for one thing. It has deceptive licensing terms, for another. And yes, the deceptive licensing started after Oracle bought Sun. That's definitely an answer. It's buggy, ridiculous software perpetuated after its irrelevancy largely to take advantage of people who haven't quite figured out QEMU yet.
yrro 5y ago
Buggy networking, video, sound and shared filesystem support (at lease that last one is still an advantage over qemu which has... nothing. Not to matter, SMB shares can be mounted to work around)
- vetinari 5y ago
  > at lease that last one is still an advantage over qemu which has... nothing https://virtio-fs.gitlab.io/ https://virtio-fs.gitlab.io/
  - yrro 5y ago
    Last time I looked at that it wasn't usable with a Windows guest. Looks like it's come on since then, thanks. Though the setup instructions are still far too complex (when compared with VirtualBox!)
st_goliath 5y ago
Not sure about the current state of affairs, but the VirtualBox kernel modules you need on the host side have for a long time been known as being notoriously low quality and unstable. Up to the point where the kernel is considered tainted if they are loaded (i.e. any crashes or issues you report with VirtualBox modules loaded being ignored)[1][2]. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw [2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317 https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317
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orev 5y ago
I very much like VirtualBox and hope it continues to be around. However, there has been an open job posting on the site for a while now, and just after that popped up, the release cadence dropped from once a month to around once every two months. That implies things are not going as smoothly as they used to. Also, recent versions have an odd “New Cloud VM” option with only Oracle Cloud as an option. Oracle is also extremely aggressive in pushing their cloud in general, so it just seems like there could be something going on behind the scenes (like maybe a developer quit because of some things Oracle was starting to demand). This is highly speculative but seems to be a few things pointing in that type of direction.

caslon 5y ago

It's slow as sin, for one thing. It has deceptive licensing terms, for another. And yes, the deceptive licensing started after Oracle bought Sun. That's definitely an answer. It's buggy, ridiculous software perpetuated after its irrelevancy largely to take advantage of people who haven't quite figured out QEMU yet.

yrro 5y ago

Buggy networking, video, sound and shared filesystem support (at lease that last one is still an advantage over qemu which has... nothing. Not to matter, SMB shares can be mounted to work around)

vetinari 5y ago
> at lease that last one is still an advantage over qemu which has... nothing https://virtio-fs.gitlab.io/ https://virtio-fs.gitlab.io/
- yrro 5y ago
  Last time I looked at that it wasn't usable with a Windows guest. Looks like it's come on since then, thanks. Though the setup instructions are still far too complex (when compared with VirtualBox!)

st_goliath 5y ago

Not sure about the current state of affairs, but the VirtualBox kernel modules you need on the host side have for a long time been known as being notoriously low quality and unstable. Up to the point where the kernel is considered tainted if they are loaded (i.e. any crashes or issues you report with VirtualBox modules loaded being ignored)[1][2]. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw [2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317 https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317

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orev 5y ago

I very much like VirtualBox and hope it continues to be around. However, there has been an open job posting on the site for a while now, and just after that popped up, the release cadence dropped from once a month to around once every two months. That implies things are not going as smoothly as they used to. Also, recent versions have an odd “New Cloud VM” option with only Oracle Cloud as an option. Oracle is also extremely aggressive in pushing their cloud in general, so it just seems like there could be something going on behind the scenes (like maybe a developer quit because of some things Oracle was starting to demand). This is highly speculative but seems to be a few things pointing in that type of direction.