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Are you grandstanding opposition to life extension just to make a statement about capitalism? You really would ditch immortality right off the bat rather than t

Are you grandstanding opposition to life extension just to make a statement about capitalism? You really would ditch immortality right off the bat rather than try to solve the wealth inequality in some other way?

jacquesm 5y ago
No, I've been around long enough to be cynical. Immortality with humanity's present state of ethical development, inequality and resource exhaustion would introduce problems, it would not solve anything.
- corndoge 5y ago
  Had you caveated your original post with the second sentence I would have agreed
- MattPalmer1086 5y ago
  It would give strong incentives for long term thinking, which would help solve many of the issues we currently face.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Alternative take. The 'haves' would get rid of the have nots because the have nots are the biggest risk to their continued existence. And in one fell stroke also solve all those issues. Why bother will billions when a few million slaves will do? Seriously though, this is all just wishful thinking, it isn't going to happen. You, like all those before you will die, probably at an age well below 100. And by that time you'll be cynical, old and tired, if you're very lucky not even disease ridden. The biggest medical breakthrough in the field of life extension was doctors washing their hands and a couple of vaccines. You want some life extension advice, here it is free of charge: get rid of your car, buy a bicycle. Eat healthy. Go live in the countryside rather than in a city. If you smoke stop doing that. If you drink alcohol, stop doing that. There, added at least a decade to your life which is more than de Grey will ever do for you. You're welcome.
    - MattPalmer1086 5y ago
      You haven't actually responded to my rebuttal of your assertion that life extension has no positives. I'm getting the feeling that you aren't interested in debating it at all. You've made your point repeatedly that you think it's a bad idea. So I guess we'll just leave it there.

jacquesm 5y ago

No, I've been around long enough to be cynical. Immortality with humanity's present state of ethical development, inequality and resource exhaustion would introduce problems, it would not solve anything.

corndoge 5y ago
Had you caveated your original post with the second sentence I would have agreed
MattPalmer1086 5y ago
It would give strong incentives for long term thinking, which would help solve many of the issues we currently face.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Alternative take. The 'haves' would get rid of the have nots because the have nots are the biggest risk to their continued existence. And in one fell stroke also solve all those issues. Why bother will billions when a few million slaves will do? Seriously though, this is all just wishful thinking, it isn't going to happen. You, like all those before you will die, probably at an age well below 100. And by that time you'll be cynical, old and tired, if you're very lucky not even disease ridden. The biggest medical breakthrough in the field of life extension was doctors washing their hands and a couple of vaccines. You want some life extension advice, here it is free of charge: get rid of your car, buy a bicycle. Eat healthy. Go live in the countryside rather than in a city. If you smoke stop doing that. If you drink alcohol, stop doing that. There, added at least a decade to your life which is more than de Grey will ever do for you. You're welcome.
  - MattPalmer1086 5y ago
    You haven't actually responded to my rebuttal of your assertion that life extension has no positives. I'm getting the feeling that you aren't interested in debating it at all. You've made your point repeatedly that you think it's a bad idea. So I guess we'll just leave it there.