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> I don't think Europe or the U.S will volunteer to absorb tens of millions of refugees if there are other solutions. Who said anything about volunteering? Eur

by hh3k0 5y ago

> I don't think Europe or the U.S will volunteer to absorb tens of millions of refugees if there are other solutions. Who said anything about volunteering? Europe couldn't stop ~1 million people from entering in 2015, so what makes you think they can stop 50 to 100 times that number? > Greenland, Siberia etc. Former frozen wasteland will become habitable "Billions of Acres of Cropland Lie Within a New Frontier. So Do 100 Years of Carbon Emissions: Crops grown on this land could feed a growing population. But if these soils are plowed, they could unleash as much carbon as the U.S. emits in more than a century." https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12022020/agricultural-frontiers-russia-canada-climate-warming/ https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12022020/agricultural-fro...

katbyte 5y ago
There is a difference between wouldn’t stop and couldn’t stop, I don’t think Europe really tried that hard?
- luckylion 5y ago
  It's much like they US could have technically stayed in Vietnam forever, but they didn't, because there was no popular support at home.
nsizx 5y ago
Europe didn't try to stop them at all.
derriz 5y ago
Europe - or Germany specifically - made a humanitarian decision to allow civilians, fleeing a civil war that had claimed half a million lives and displaced 5 million, refuge as per UN rules. They could easily have said no - like many most other European countries did.
joelbluminator 5y ago
Europe didn't try to stop the Syrian refugees, it obviously has the political and military capabilities to settle people elsewhere. One million is manageable without Europe collapsing, 30-50 million is a different story. BTW Europe has already made a deal with Turkey to host millions of refugees there (on Turkish soil) so this is already happening. I think the political will to host more refugees, let alone tens of millions, is about zero in Europe.
gregors 5y ago
"Wir shaffen das" => "We will make it!" - Angela Merkel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das

by hh3k0 5y ago

katbyte 5y ago

There is a difference between wouldn’t stop and couldn’t stop, I don’t think Europe really tried that hard?

luckylion 5y ago
It's much like they US could have technically stayed in Vietnam forever, but they didn't, because there was no popular support at home.

nsizx 5y ago

Europe didn't try to stop them at all.

derriz 5y ago

Europe - or Germany specifically - made a humanitarian decision to allow civilians, fleeing a civil war that had claimed half a million lives and displaced 5 million, refuge as per UN rules. They could easily have said no - like many most other European countries did.

joelbluminator 5y ago

Europe didn't try to stop the Syrian refugees, it obviously has the political and military capabilities to settle people elsewhere. One million is manageable without Europe collapsing, 30-50 million is a different story. BTW Europe has already made a deal with Turkey to host millions of refugees there (on Turkish soil) so this is already happening. I think the political will to host more refugees, let alone tens of millions, is about zero in Europe.

gregors 5y ago

"Wir shaffen das" => "We will make it!" - Angela Merkel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das