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> I would love having some neighbours from California in my summer house… Well, you're in luck. It won't just be Californians, though. You'll have new neighbor

by hh3k0 5y ago

> I would love having some neighbours from California in my summer house… Well, you're in luck. It won't just be Californians, though. You'll have new neighbors pouring in from all over the world, cramming up in the liveable spaces that'll be left. It's gonna be cozy. And who knows, maybe you'll even have to spare a room or two of your house for them? Just as Germans had to when the refugees from the former eastern territories poured in after WW2.

chewz 5y ago
I was thinking more about exchanging gardening tips and salads. But please come over there is a lot of space from Vistula River to Ural and beyond… (we are rapidly depopulating) Just drop the doom and Millenarian attitude… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism
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- hh3k0 5y ago
  > Just drop the doom and Millenarian attitude… Not sure if you and I read the same IPCC report, tbh.
joelbluminator 5y ago
Doesn't sound likely. You will be able to settle tens of millions of refugees in Greenland, Siberia etc. Former frozen wasteland will become habitable. I don't think Europe or the U.S will volunteer to absorb tens of millions of refugees if there are other solutions.
- hh3k0 5y ago
  > I don't think Europe or the U.S will volunteer to absorb tens of millions of refugees if there are other solutions. Who said anything about volunteering? Europe couldn't stop ~1 million people from entering in 2015, so what makes you think they can stop 50 to 100 times that number? > Greenland, Siberia etc. Former frozen wasteland will become habitable "Billions of Acres of Cropland Lie Within a New Frontier. So Do 100 Years of Carbon Emissions: Crops grown on this land could feed a growing population. But if these soils are plowed, they could unleash as much carbon as the U.S. emits in more than a century." https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12022020/agricultural-frontiers-russia-canada-climate-warming/ https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12022020/agricultural-fro...
  - katbyte 5y ago
    There is a difference between wouldn’t stop and couldn’t stop, I don’t think Europe really tried that hard?
    - luckylion 5y ago
      It's much like they US could have technically stayed in Vietnam forever, but they didn't, because there was no popular support at home.
  - nsizx 5y ago
    Europe didn't try to stop them at all.
  - derriz 5y ago
    Europe - or Germany specifically - made a humanitarian decision to allow civilians, fleeing a civil war that had claimed half a million lives and displaced 5 million, refuge as per UN rules. They could easily have said no - like many most other European countries did.
  - joelbluminator 5y ago
    Europe didn't try to stop the Syrian refugees, it obviously has the political and military capabilities to settle people elsewhere. One million is manageable without Europe collapsing, 30-50 million is a different story. BTW Europe has already made a deal with Turkey to host millions of refugees there (on Turkish soil) so this is already happening. I think the political will to host more refugees, let alone tens of millions, is about zero in Europe.
  - gregors 5y ago
    "Wir shaffen das" => "We will make it!" - Angela Merkel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das
- akiselev 5y ago
  > Former frozen wasteland will become habitable That former frozen wasteland will become one huge swamp. It'll take a whole lot of work to make it habitable by modern standards. That's assuming it doesn't just dry out and start a decade long peat fire that suffocates the area.

by hh3k0 5y ago

chewz 5y ago

I was thinking more about exchanging gardening tips and salads. But please come over there is a lot of space from Vistula River to Ural and beyond… (we are rapidly depopulating) Just drop the doom and Millenarian attitude… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism

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hh3k0 5y ago
> Just drop the doom and Millenarian attitude… Not sure if you and I read the same IPCC report, tbh.

joelbluminator 5y ago

Doesn't sound likely. You will be able to settle tens of millions of refugees in Greenland, Siberia etc. Former frozen wasteland will become habitable. I don't think Europe or the U.S will volunteer to absorb tens of millions of refugees if there are other solutions.

hh3k0 5y ago
> I don't think Europe or the U.S will volunteer to absorb tens of millions of refugees if there are other solutions. Who said anything about volunteering? Europe couldn't stop ~1 million people from entering in 2015, so what makes you think they can stop 50 to 100 times that number? > Greenland, Siberia etc. Former frozen wasteland will become habitable "Billions of Acres of Cropland Lie Within a New Frontier. So Do 100 Years of Carbon Emissions: Crops grown on this land could feed a growing population. But if these soils are plowed, they could unleash as much carbon as the U.S. emits in more than a century." https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12022020/agricultural-frontiers-russia-canada-climate-warming/ https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12022020/agricultural-fro...
- katbyte 5y ago
  There is a difference between wouldn’t stop and couldn’t stop, I don’t think Europe really tried that hard?
  - luckylion 5y ago
    It's much like they US could have technically stayed in Vietnam forever, but they didn't, because there was no popular support at home.
- nsizx 5y ago
  Europe didn't try to stop them at all.
- derriz 5y ago
  Europe - or Germany specifically - made a humanitarian decision to allow civilians, fleeing a civil war that had claimed half a million lives and displaced 5 million, refuge as per UN rules. They could easily have said no - like many most other European countries did.
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  Europe didn't try to stop the Syrian refugees, it obviously has the political and military capabilities to settle people elsewhere. One million is manageable without Europe collapsing, 30-50 million is a different story. BTW Europe has already made a deal with Turkey to host millions of refugees there (on Turkish soil) so this is already happening. I think the political will to host more refugees, let alone tens of millions, is about zero in Europe.
- gregors 5y ago
  "Wir shaffen das" => "We will make it!" - Angela Merkel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das
akiselev 5y ago
> Former frozen wasteland will become habitable That former frozen wasteland will become one huge swamp. It'll take a whole lot of work to make it habitable by modern standards. That's assuming it doesn't just dry out and start a decade long peat fire that suffocates the area.