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I usually skim these threads looking for tips for a phone like this. I'm actually thinking of buying the iPhone 12 mini because I haven't seen anything else lik

I usually skim these threads looking for tips for a phone like this. I'm actually thinking of buying the iPhone 12 mini because I haven't seen anything else like it. Something that's important to me is a good camera and long support (I don't care to change my phone every year) or else I'd just get one of the ~200 usd cheap phones. I pretty much have the same requirements you do, aside from the audio jack, because I actually enjoy not having to deal with the wires. I don't use the headphones for long periods at a time, so battery life isn't an issue. Bonus points for audio quality being good when I use them on my shitty HP laptop.

user-the-name 5y ago
Don't think there really is anyone other than Apple that actually offers any kind of longer-term support.
- vladvasiliu 5y ago
  I was looking at the Android One thing, which on paper is supposed to provide exactly that. I'm not following this scene particularly closely, but I've seen somewhere that this program is unlikely to continue for too long...
kartoshechka 5y ago
I've considered 12 mini too, but... I'm too addicted to the openness of (a rooted) Android: I can delete whatever I want and potentially get a bootloop, I can throttle the CPU and GPU so the phone isn't a hot potato in my hands while surfing or get critical screen minutes when I can't charge the phone, I can have whatever files I want on the storage and managing them from PC is as easy as managing the USB flash drive. Plus the whole CSAM thing is just beyond my understanding. But I do enjoy wireless headphones with PC at home, it's quite handy to be able to talk at the daily meeting while making a coffee or watering the plants :)
- vladvasiliu 5y ago
  I understand the openness angle, but personally, I don't feel it with my phone. To me, it's basically an appliance. I have next to no apps installed. I only use it to call people, listen to music, take pictures and as a GPS (on a motorcycle, so its being waterproof is important). I currently own an iPhone 7, but before that I had multiple Galaxy Ss, each with a custom mod. The iPhone is the first one I don't get the itch to modify. It just gets out of my way. The Samsung android install would always end up getting on my nerves. That's why I'm actively avoiding Samsung phones now, and I'm looking at models with Android One or that can easily support some aftermarket ROM. Trouble is, my hardware requirements (good camera + waterproof) pretty much exclude those phones...
  - kartoshechka 5y ago
    I got to use briefly some iphones starting from 3GS, and honestly, I like how smooth they feel in day-to-day usage, but the biggest drawbacks for me is absence of full featured adblocker (ublock origin), itunes hassle, and no alternative way to install apps (app store only). I also consider my phone to be a pretty dumb tool, but I also occasionally browse web and do banking with it, so I'd love to use iphone if Jailbreak wasn't so fragile. Instead, I have to set the phone aside myself from the scratch :)
    - fossuser 5y ago
      For ad blocking, 1Blocker has been the best for a while: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker-privacy/id1365531024 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker-privacy/id... iTunes is dead and its "Music" replacement doesn't need to be used for the phone anymore anyway. App Store is the only main constraint.
thoughtpeddler 5y ago
Get the iPhone 12 mini -- you won't regret it. It's a safe assumption that most HN members spend a lot of time on their computers, so their phone should embody what a mobile device truly is: a very small, mobile computing device. Why have a big one if you're operating a big computing device most of the day, anyway? My mini is so transparent to me, I often have to check if it's still in my pocket, and I absolutely love that. It has the same computing and photography capabilities as the larger iPhone, so you don't miss out on any of those benefits either. I've been waiting for this size device for years, and it's sad to hear they apparently don't sell well. It's the best iPhone I've ever owned.
fossuser 5y ago
The 12 mini is my favorite iPhone since the 5. I’d definitely recommend it if you think you might like it.

user-the-name 5y ago

Don't think there really is anyone other than Apple that actually offers any kind of longer-term support.

vladvasiliu 5y ago
I was looking at the Android One thing, which on paper is supposed to provide exactly that. I'm not following this scene particularly closely, but I've seen somewhere that this program is unlikely to continue for too long...

kartoshechka 5y ago

I've considered 12 mini too, but... I'm too addicted to the openness of (a rooted) Android: I can delete whatever I want and potentially get a bootloop, I can throttle the CPU and GPU so the phone isn't a hot potato in my hands while surfing or get critical screen minutes when I can't charge the phone, I can have whatever files I want on the storage and managing them from PC is as easy as managing the USB flash drive. Plus the whole CSAM thing is just beyond my understanding. But I do enjoy wireless headphones with PC at home, it's quite handy to be able to talk at the daily meeting while making a coffee or watering the plants :)

vladvasiliu 5y ago
I understand the openness angle, but personally, I don't feel it with my phone. To me, it's basically an appliance. I have next to no apps installed. I only use it to call people, listen to music, take pictures and as a GPS (on a motorcycle, so its being waterproof is important). I currently own an iPhone 7, but before that I had multiple Galaxy Ss, each with a custom mod. The iPhone is the first one I don't get the itch to modify. It just gets out of my way. The Samsung android install would always end up getting on my nerves. That's why I'm actively avoiding Samsung phones now, and I'm looking at models with Android One or that can easily support some aftermarket ROM. Trouble is, my hardware requirements (good camera + waterproof) pretty much exclude those phones...
- kartoshechka 5y ago
  I got to use briefly some iphones starting from 3GS, and honestly, I like how smooth they feel in day-to-day usage, but the biggest drawbacks for me is absence of full featured adblocker (ublock origin), itunes hassle, and no alternative way to install apps (app store only). I also consider my phone to be a pretty dumb tool, but I also occasionally browse web and do banking with it, so I'd love to use iphone if Jailbreak wasn't so fragile. Instead, I have to set the phone aside myself from the scratch :)
  - fossuser 5y ago
    For ad blocking, 1Blocker has been the best for a while: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker-privacy/id1365531024 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker-privacy/id... iTunes is dead and its "Music" replacement doesn't need to be used for the phone anymore anyway. App Store is the only main constraint.

thoughtpeddler 5y ago

Get the iPhone 12 mini -- you won't regret it. It's a safe assumption that most HN members spend a lot of time on their computers, so their phone should embody what a mobile device truly is: a very small, mobile computing device. Why have a big one if you're operating a big computing device most of the day, anyway? My mini is so transparent to me, I often have to check if it's still in my pocket, and I absolutely love that. It has the same computing and photography capabilities as the larger iPhone, so you don't miss out on any of those benefits either. I've been waiting for this size device for years, and it's sad to hear they apparently don't sell well. It's the best iPhone I've ever owned.

fossuser 5y ago

The 12 mini is my favorite iPhone since the 5. I’d definitely recommend it if you think you might like it.