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> Already covered extensively: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28180074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28180074 Fortunately I knew what's happening

> Already covered extensively: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28180074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28180074 Fortunately I knew what's happening in Bullseye, but it's counterintuitive that the referenced post is linked into the release notes, which is already available months* ago. Also, in my personal opinion release notes misses the context. Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28180747 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28180747 "Is it released yet ? The download page still gives a download link to the version 10.10" Someone (hint: not the linked comment) was too excited yesterday. * Actually, years ago.

jka 5y ago
Industry attempts to control these kind of situations by using press embargos[1] - ensure that the news isn't public until all of the materials and associated marketing is ready to go, focusing the message and conversation. I'm glad that that isn't the approach taken here (it's a more genuine, transparent and organic approach). Following the micronews[2] site posts was enjoyable. Although yep, perhaps there could have been good context for newcomers to Debian from this announcement article rather than the release notes. Fortunately I don't think Debian is under market time or presentation demands, so it'll roll on regardless. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo [2] - https://micronews.debian.org/ https://micronews.debian.org/
- zinekeller 5y ago
  > Fortunately I don't think Debian is under market time or presentation demands, so it'll roll on regardless. Fair enough, I knew Bullseye is ready to be released (on mid-August sans if there's a nasty bug) last month, but I agree that the linked post should go into Debian's micronews about the preparations or into their mail archive rather than a (for someone who's not into Debian) user manual without any context whatsoever.

jka 5y ago

Industry attempts to control these kind of situations by using press embargos[1] - ensure that the news isn't public until all of the materials and associated marketing is ready to go, focusing the message and conversation. I'm glad that that isn't the approach taken here (it's a more genuine, transparent and organic approach). Following the micronews[2] site posts was enjoyable. Although yep, perhaps there could have been good context for newcomers to Debian from this announcement article rather than the release notes. Fortunately I don't think Debian is under market time or presentation demands, so it'll roll on regardless. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo [2] - https://micronews.debian.org/ https://micronews.debian.org/

zinekeller 5y ago
> Fortunately I don't think Debian is under market time or presentation demands, so it'll roll on regardless. Fair enough, I knew Bullseye is ready to be released (on mid-August sans if there's a nasty bug) last month, but I agree that the linked post should go into Debian's micronews about the preparations or into their mail archive rather than a (for someone who's not into Debian) user manual without any context whatsoever.