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Now this is impressive. Truly quite amazing technology. I pray we reach the day where my 1200GB music collection can be compressed without noticing, to a fracti

Now this is impressive. Truly quite amazing technology. I pray we reach the day where my 1200GB music collection can be compressed without noticing, to a fraction of the size.

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Why? that's not much more than 1TB, easily available in various storage formats for a very low price. What's the issue with the size?
- amonavis 5y ago
  Personally for me the issue is not the size but the transfer (think streaming, service migration, etc.)
  - sodality2 5y ago
    I just have a syncthing folder shared between my VPS, my home server, my desktop, laptop, and phone; it syncs it continuously so a download once syncs it everywhere else. It's basically set it and forget it.
    - amonavis 5y ago
      In some countries data consumption is still capped, and reducing bandwidth usage goes a long way in making media consumption more affordable.
- sodality2 5y ago
  It's not very portable. I can't keep it on my phone without a 1TB micro SD, and I could theoretically carry an SSD but thats not really portable as it requires internal connection. And if it's an external drive with a USB connection then it's probably much larger than my phone. It's certainly able to be kept and it's not a particularly unwieldly amount of data for the average power user, but if I ever had to bring my music somewhere (and I mean all of it) I'd be screwed. Plus that data would take hours to copy if ever needed. I spent just an hour today dding a 64GB SD card. I just keep my favorite albums and discographies in 320 MP3 as I know there is almost no music player on earth that will fail to play it. Then I keep that in a micro SD in my wallet, for that emergency in which you desperately need some Pink Floyd.
  - jonplackett 5y ago
    More likely that storage capacity/$ will scale faster that codec efficiency. In a few years you’ll have it on your phone anyway!
  - f1refly 5y ago
    1. Wow, what an obsessive music geek you are. 2. Consider https://beets.io https://beets.io for management, it may be just the system you want. One of its features is converting you library into a lossy version while keeping your high res files in a very managed way.
    - sodality2 5y ago
      Now that's cool. Thank you so much, I'll look into that.
    - toast0 5y ago
      As you seem knowledgeable, it looks like beets manages music you've already ripped, do you have a suggestion for ripping? Last time I tried, it was a disaster (I got a lot of poor quality audio and ended up nuking everything because it was too much work to listen to everything and try again)
      - f1refly 5y ago
        It's been a while since I ripped my last CD, but I always found https://github.com/bleskodev/rubyripper https://github.com/bleskodev/rubyripper very useful. It uses cdparanoia to get multiple rips and combines them into what it thinks is the exact information located on the original cd. These days, I can fortunately download most stuff directly from bandcamp :)
NathanielK 5y ago
Depends what format you have it in now. 160kbps opus is transparent for almost all music. That's 1/5 the space of a FLAC collection, or 1/2 the size of 320kbps mp3, two other popular ways to store music without noticeable loss in quality.
- sodality2 5y ago
  I actually do encode to 128 opus and crank up the encoder settings for music synced to my own devices, because I know they can play it. It's pretty much transparent to me but I am not an audiophile with audiophile equipment, which is why I keep the originals.

Now this is impressive. Truly quite amazing technology. I pray we reach the day where my 1200GB music collection can be compressed without noticing, to a fraction of the size.

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago

Why? that's not much more than 1TB, easily available in various storage formats for a very low price. What's the issue with the size?

amonavis 5y ago
Personally for me the issue is not the size but the transfer (think streaming, service migration, etc.)
- sodality2 5y ago
  I just have a syncthing folder shared between my VPS, my home server, my desktop, laptop, and phone; it syncs it continuously so a download once syncs it everywhere else. It's basically set it and forget it.
  - amonavis 5y ago
    In some countries data consumption is still capped, and reducing bandwidth usage goes a long way in making media consumption more affordable.
sodality2 5y ago
It's not very portable. I can't keep it on my phone without a 1TB micro SD, and I could theoretically carry an SSD but thats not really portable as it requires internal connection. And if it's an external drive with a USB connection then it's probably much larger than my phone. It's certainly able to be kept and it's not a particularly unwieldly amount of data for the average power user, but if I ever had to bring my music somewhere (and I mean all of it) I'd be screwed. Plus that data would take hours to copy if ever needed. I spent just an hour today dding a 64GB SD card. I just keep my favorite albums and discographies in 320 MP3 as I know there is almost no music player on earth that will fail to play it. Then I keep that in a micro SD in my wallet, for that emergency in which you desperately need some Pink Floyd.
- jonplackett 5y ago
  More likely that storage capacity/$ will scale faster that codec efficiency. In a few years you’ll have it on your phone anyway!
- f1refly 5y ago
  1. Wow, what an obsessive music geek you are. 2. Consider https://beets.io https://beets.io for management, it may be just the system you want. One of its features is converting you library into a lossy version while keeping your high res files in a very managed way.
  - sodality2 5y ago
    Now that's cool. Thank you so much, I'll look into that.
  - toast0 5y ago
    As you seem knowledgeable, it looks like beets manages music you've already ripped, do you have a suggestion for ripping? Last time I tried, it was a disaster (I got a lot of poor quality audio and ended up nuking everything because it was too much work to listen to everything and try again)
    - f1refly 5y ago
      It's been a while since I ripped my last CD, but I always found https://github.com/bleskodev/rubyripper https://github.com/bleskodev/rubyripper very useful. It uses cdparanoia to get multiple rips and combines them into what it thinks is the exact information located on the original cd. These days, I can fortunately download most stuff directly from bandcamp :)

NathanielK 5y ago

Depends what format you have it in now. 160kbps opus is transparent for almost all music. That's 1/5 the space of a FLAC collection, or 1/2 the size of 320kbps mp3, two other popular ways to store music without noticeable loss in quality.

sodality2 5y ago
I actually do encode to 128 opus and crank up the encoder settings for music synced to my own devices, because I know they can play it. It's pretty much transparent to me but I am not an audiophile with audiophile equipment, which is why I keep the originals.