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>how much biological evolution has gone toward optimizing bodies to dissiptate [sic] heat efficiently Clothing is a relatively recent phenomenon in evolutionar

>how much biological evolution has gone toward optimizing bodies to dissiptate [sic] heat efficiently Clothing is a relatively recent phenomenon in evolutionary timescales. Should we abandon that as well to optimize body temperature? >this is a bad faith response No, it shows you have no data to support your claim that masks harm school age kids. I can point to hundreds of schools around the world that have masked for over a year and reported no developmental delays. If masks caused delays, we would know by now.

CryptoPunk 5y ago
>>Clothing is a relatively recent phenomenon in evolutionary timescales. Should we abandon that as well to optimize body temperature? But we modify clothing based on personal comfort. It's extremely uncomfortable to wear a mask, especially as the moist air exhaled is trapped under the one/two/three layers of mask and heats up the face. >>No, it shows you have no data to support your claim that masks harm school age kids. Like I already pointed out, no studies have been done on this, because it's an unprecedented policy experiment. The burden of proof is on you. >>I can point to hundreds of schools around the world that have masked for over a year and reported no developmental delays. If masks caused delays, we would know by now. How would we know without studies? Smoking wasn't known to be harmful for decades until after it became popular. As for anecdotes, there are plenty saying kids have become more antisocial. What we can't definitively say is whether these anecdotes are an indication of a broader trend, and whether - if there is a trend - it's due to masking, social isolation, or some combination of these factors.
- jasonlaramburu 5y ago
  > But we modify clothing based on personal comfort. There are thousands of types of masks. People can find one they like just like a shirt. >It’s extremely uncomfortable to wear a mask 100% your opinion. Most people I know seem not to mind. I honestly don’t care whether you wear one or not. I care whether the child infected with covid in my kid’s classroom does. >the burden of proof is on you The ‘burden’ should be on the individual proposing to roll back safety measures.
  - CryptoPunk 5y ago
    >>There are thousands of types of masks. People can find one they like just like a shirt The function of a mask runs counter to the function of heat dissipation. You can't get a mask that works well at stopping droplets that will allow heat to dissipitate and not cause steam to collect in the face. >>100% your opinion. It's not opinion that having to wear a mask traps warm moist hair that one exhales, against the face. >>The ‘burden’ should be on the individual proposing to roll back safety measures. Not when the risks to safety - that the measure is being implemented to mitigate - are extremely minute, and the measures very plausibly have safety risks themselves.
    - jasonlaramburu 5y ago
      I think everyone would prefer to not wear masks, they are undoubtedly an inconvenience. But you’ve still not shown any evidence they are really a safety hazard. There is strong evidence they reduce transmission of aerosols. Given that our best shot at a return to normalcy is a vaccine, and those should be available for all western school age kids by years end, is it really that huge of an inconvenience to do it a few more months?
      - CryptoPunk 5y ago
        The burden of providing evidence, that masking is not harmful to childhood development, is on those advocating it. >>There is strong evidence they reduce transmission of aerosols The virus will not be extripated from the population through these means. Even Iceland, where almost the entire population is vaccinated, is seeing a new wave: https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/1424011542195023878 https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/14240115421950238...

CryptoPunk 5y ago

>>Clothing is a relatively recent phenomenon in evolutionary timescales. Should we abandon that as well to optimize body temperature? But we modify clothing based on personal comfort. It's extremely uncomfortable to wear a mask, especially as the moist air exhaled is trapped under the one/two/three layers of mask and heats up the face. >>No, it shows you have no data to support your claim that masks harm school age kids. Like I already pointed out, no studies have been done on this, because it's an unprecedented policy experiment. The burden of proof is on you. >>I can point to hundreds of schools around the world that have masked for over a year and reported no developmental delays. If masks caused delays, we would know by now. How would we know without studies? Smoking wasn't known to be harmful for decades until after it became popular. As for anecdotes, there are plenty saying kids have become more antisocial. What we can't definitively say is whether these anecdotes are an indication of a broader trend, and whether - if there is a trend - it's due to masking, social isolation, or some combination of these factors.

jasonlaramburu 5y ago
> But we modify clothing based on personal comfort. There are thousands of types of masks. People can find one they like just like a shirt. >It’s extremely uncomfortable to wear a mask 100% your opinion. Most people I know seem not to mind. I honestly don’t care whether you wear one or not. I care whether the child infected with covid in my kid’s classroom does. >the burden of proof is on you The ‘burden’ should be on the individual proposing to roll back safety measures.
- CryptoPunk 5y ago
  >>There are thousands of types of masks. People can find one they like just like a shirt The function of a mask runs counter to the function of heat dissipation. You can't get a mask that works well at stopping droplets that will allow heat to dissipitate and not cause steam to collect in the face. >>100% your opinion. It's not opinion that having to wear a mask traps warm moist hair that one exhales, against the face. >>The ‘burden’ should be on the individual proposing to roll back safety measures. Not when the risks to safety - that the measure is being implemented to mitigate - are extremely minute, and the measures very plausibly have safety risks themselves.
  - jasonlaramburu 5y ago
    I think everyone would prefer to not wear masks, they are undoubtedly an inconvenience. But you’ve still not shown any evidence they are really a safety hazard. There is strong evidence they reduce transmission of aerosols. Given that our best shot at a return to normalcy is a vaccine, and those should be available for all western school age kids by years end, is it really that huge of an inconvenience to do it a few more months?
    - CryptoPunk 5y ago
      The burden of providing evidence, that masking is not harmful to childhood development, is on those advocating it. >>There is strong evidence they reduce transmission of aerosols The virus will not be extripated from the population through these means. Even Iceland, where almost the entire population is vaccinated, is seeing a new wave: https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/1424011542195023878 https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/14240115421950238...