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https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/unusual-rsv-summer-surge-continues-in-north-texas-as-pediatric-icu-beds-dwindle-in-covid-surge/287-e353eaa1-4181-4a53-9c

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/unusual-rsv-summer-surge-continues-in-north-texas-as-pediatric-icu-beds-dwindle-in-covid-surge/287-e353eaa1-4181-4a53-9c60-039425965453 https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/unusual-rsv-summer-s... It’s mostly RSV, a virus more dangerous to the young than COVID, which has been suppressed by Lockdowns and other measures.

ergot_vacation 5y ago
From the article: "Jones said there are some theories about why there's a summer surge this year. 'For the last year and a half, a lot of us have been in these. In masks. We were also social distancing,' Jones said." In other words, as you said the natural ebb and flow of RSV has probably been interrupted by Covid containment measures, then restarted at an unexpected time as those measured briefly started to be relaxed. Which means that in a sense, the lack of beds was caused BY the mask mandate, not by a refusal to adhere to it more strictly. Propaganda and fear-mongering, over and over. Also: "'We are all on team public health,' the judge said. 'And every person needs to understand that the enemy is the virus, it's not each other.'" Our enemy is clearly both, because "experts" and officials have been lying since day 1. And of the two, it seems like the lies have caused more damage than the actual virus at this point.
- fullmoon 5y ago
  Yes. The off-season RSV surge is both coming at the worst possible time, and is a paradoxical effect of (amongst other measures) masks, which led to a “immune deficiency” in kids. Influenza isn’t gone either (although except for some regions in China there is very little signal so far). Knock ok wood that it takes a bit longer.
  - walkedaway 5y ago
    > is a paradoxical effect of (amongst other measures) masks Also an 100% known and predictable effect.
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    SV is a disease that is dangerous for preemies. So 15 months of preemies had a drastically reduced RSV infection rate, and this month's preemies have a slightly increased RSV rate.
Steltek 5y ago
Does it really matter what your child is sick from if the hospitals are overflowing?
- fullmoon 5y ago
  Yes, it does since for some reason the U.S. media (almost exclusively in the world) is pushing this theme, and does so in a very shallow manner. People will think that the PICU beds are full of Covid patients, which will cloud their judgement about the real-risks for their children.
  - kthejoker2 5y ago
    The "real-risk" is the ICU availability, now I'm worrying about them on their bikes or taking them on highway trips .. especially when overflow / understaffing kicks in once school starts. It's paralyzing, and ... it's your kids, you just don't eff around.
b0sk 5y ago
I need a citation that it's "mostly" RSV. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2021/08/12/dallas-fort-worth-out-of-icu-beds-for-children-as-surge-in-covid-19-cases-continues-group-says/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2021/08/12/dal... > A record-high number of pediatric COVID-19 patients — 73 — and an unusually large number of respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV, patients has resulted in the overall occupancy of children’s beds reaching about 95%. Nowhere does it say that it's mostly RSV.
- kthejoker2 5y ago
  https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-rsv-covid-19-childrens-hospitals/ https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-rsv-covid-19-c... https://www.dshs.texas.gov/IDCU/disease/rsv/Data/2020-21/2020-21-RSV-by-DSHS-HSR-081121.pdf https://www.dshs.texas.gov/IDCU/disease/rsv/Data/2020-21/202... > There were 783 children admitted to Texas hospitals with COVID-19 between July 1 and Aug. 9. The aggregate totals in the 2nd link's chart for the same eriod are way higher than 783 > Within Texas Children’s, more than 45 children were hospitalized with COVID-19 on Wednesday, and hospital staff members have diagnosed over 1,600 cases of RSV.

ergot_vacation 5y ago

From the article: "Jones said there are some theories about why there's a summer surge this year. 'For the last year and a half, a lot of us have been in these. In masks. We were also social distancing,' Jones said." In other words, as you said the natural ebb and flow of RSV has probably been interrupted by Covid containment measures, then restarted at an unexpected time as those measured briefly started to be relaxed. Which means that in a sense, the lack of beds was caused BY the mask mandate, not by a refusal to adhere to it more strictly. Propaganda and fear-mongering, over and over. Also: "'We are all on team public health,' the judge said. 'And every person needs to understand that the enemy is the virus, it's not each other.'" Our enemy is clearly both, because "experts" and officials have been lying since day 1. And of the two, it seems like the lies have caused more damage than the actual virus at this point.

fullmoon 5y ago
Yes. The off-season RSV surge is both coming at the worst possible time, and is a paradoxical effect of (amongst other measures) masks, which led to a “immune deficiency” in kids. Influenza isn’t gone either (although except for some regions in China there is very little signal so far). Knock ok wood that it takes a bit longer.
- walkedaway 5y ago
  > is a paradoxical effect of (amongst other measures) masks Also an 100% known and predictable effect.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  SV is a disease that is dangerous for preemies. So 15 months of preemies had a drastically reduced RSV infection rate, and this month's preemies have a slightly increased RSV rate.

Steltek 5y ago

Does it really matter what your child is sick from if the hospitals are overflowing?

fullmoon 5y ago
Yes, it does since for some reason the U.S. media (almost exclusively in the world) is pushing this theme, and does so in a very shallow manner. People will think that the PICU beds are full of Covid patients, which will cloud their judgement about the real-risks for their children.
- kthejoker2 5y ago
  The "real-risk" is the ICU availability, now I'm worrying about them on their bikes or taking them on highway trips .. especially when overflow / understaffing kicks in once school starts. It's paralyzing, and ... it's your kids, you just don't eff around.

b0sk 5y ago

I need a citation that it's "mostly" RSV. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2021/08/12/dallas-fort-worth-out-of-icu-beds-for-children-as-surge-in-covid-19-cases-continues-group-says/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2021/08/12/dal... > A record-high number of pediatric COVID-19 patients — 73 — and an unusually large number of respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV, patients has resulted in the overall occupancy of children’s beds reaching about 95%. Nowhere does it say that it's mostly RSV.

kthejoker2 5y ago
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-rsv-covid-19-childrens-hospitals/ https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/12/texas-rsv-covid-19-c... https://www.dshs.texas.gov/IDCU/disease/rsv/Data/2020-21/2020-21-RSV-by-DSHS-HSR-081121.pdf https://www.dshs.texas.gov/IDCU/disease/rsv/Data/2020-21/202... > There were 783 children admitted to Texas hospitals with COVID-19 between July 1 and Aug. 9. The aggregate totals in the 2nd link's chart for the same eriod are way higher than 783 > Within Texas Children’s, more than 45 children were hospitalized with COVID-19 on Wednesday, and hospital staff members have diagnosed over 1,600 cases of RSV.