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> We don't have any evidence for a sudden ("sodden"?) Noah-style flood. I think we do have a lot evidence about that. We just haven't observed it during the pa

> We don't have any evidence for a sudden ("sodden"?) Noah-style flood. I think we do have a lot evidence about that. We just haven't observed it during the past 1,000 years. There is one nice small-scale introduction video about this happening in the USA [1], but I remember reading recent scientific papers that talk about it as a world wide event. They put it roughly 12,000 years ago (not 2,000 years ago). Also the story of the discovered - J. Harlen Bretz - as sad as it is, is quite telling about how unscientific scientists can get. Mainstream geology rejected his ideas mainly because "his theory implied the potential possibilities of a Biblical flood, which the scientific community strongly rejected" [2]. In other words - they have already assumed that things described in the Bible must be nonsense, hence, any facts pointing to the contrary must be interpreted in a different way. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZgfPGtQEs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZgfPGtQEs [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Harlen_Bretz#The_Spokane_floods:_an_outrageous_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Harlen_Bretz#The_Spokane_flo...

ncmncm 5y ago
The seas started filling in 20kya, from 200m down. There were periods when the water rose at a rate of a meter in a century, for centuries, which corresponds to the shoreline retreating 20 meters or more, each century, in many places. All that water is still there; we think of it as just part of the ocean now, but there were millions of square miles of dry land all now underwater. The flood Bretz elucidated, that carved out the Washington State badlands at the beginning of the Younger Dryas period, was catastrophic, scouring thousands of square miles down to bedrock and carving the Columbia River gorge in a matter of weeks, but would not account for flood myths on the opposite side of the world, even though it also signalled an increase in the rate of sea level rise. There have of course been extraordinarily large tsunamis, too, that would be generate their own stories, and regional floods. It is not hard to see how flood stories woul merge over time.

ncmncm 5y ago

The seas started filling in 20kya, from 200m down. There were periods when the water rose at a rate of a meter in a century, for centuries, which corresponds to the shoreline retreating 20 meters or more, each century, in many places. All that water is still there; we think of it as just part of the ocean now, but there were millions of square miles of dry land all now underwater. The flood Bretz elucidated, that carved out the Washington State badlands at the beginning of the Younger Dryas period, was catastrophic, scouring thousands of square miles down to bedrock and carving the Columbia River gorge in a matter of weeks, but would not account for flood myths on the opposite side of the world, even though it also signalled an increase in the rate of sea level rise. There have of course been extraordinarily large tsunamis, too, that would be generate their own stories, and regional floods. It is not hard to see how flood stories woul merge over time.