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Fermented Foods May Alter Your Microbiome and Improve Your Health

25 points by avnigo 5y ago

bsmitty5000 5y ago
I’m hitting the paywall so I can’t read the article, but the headline reminds me of something Andrew Huberman talked about in one of his recent podcasts- https://youtu.be/rW9QKc-iFoY https://youtu.be/rW9QKc-iFoY It’s a small segment at the beginning, about a recent study showing how fermented foods help decrease inflammation possibly through increased gut bacteria diversity.
- beckman466 5y ago
  > I’m hitting the paywall so I can’t read the article https://archive.is/CtXTZ https://archive.is/CtXTZ
- viraptor 5y ago
  non-paywalled https://web.archive.org/web/20210814021023/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/well/eat/yogurt-kimchi-kombucha-microbiome.html https://web.archive.org/web/20210814021023/https://www.nytim...
amanaplanacanal 5y ago
Beer, pepperoni, and mozzarella are all fermented foods. Pizza and beer sounds like a fine diet :)
- beckman466 5y ago
  lol. maybe 'fermented vegetables' would have been a better title. although the common definition for 'fermented foods' don't include the ones you mentioned... but you already knew that haha
  - willio58 5y ago
    Fermented milk can also be healthy!
Havoc 5y ago
Tricky bit is finding the real deal. Don’t have much faith in the large chains distribute anything that > teeming with live microorganisms,
- 988747 5y ago
  Of course they don’t because those would have a very short shelf life. Fortunately those things are pretty easy to make at home
  - madengr 5y ago
    Kimchi has a pretty long shelf life. The stuff sold as fresh kimchi has a several month “use by” date, and I’m sure the “old” kimchi is about a year old. When I made it, I never refrigerated it. I’m sure sauerkraut is the same.
- viraptor 5y ago
  You can relatively easily ferment food. Kimchi for example is trivial to do. Many milk-based fermented foods can be bought as ready-to-combine kits too.
treeman79 5y ago
I suffer from severe stomach pain due to inflammation. Lots of tums. Started drinking 2 kombucha a day a couple months ago. Stomach problems are almost entirely gone now. Only one data point. But it has helped.
stevenalowe 5y ago
Whiskey is now a health superfood?
moistly 5y ago
Speaking from personal experience: after a brutal round of antibiotics to kill a pathogen in my gut, I still had terrible issues — I believe from inflammation feeding into itself. A few weeks of pure CBD + probiotics has brought immense relief; I have since been able to drop the CBD; I will continue with a round of different probiotics to maximize the variety of gut microbes. I am finally, after several years of gut hell, optimistic that I’m going to get healthy. Edit: the CBD had the immediate effect of reducing peristalsis. Also made me fog-brained and sleepy, but I feel that was an acceptable side-effect for the limited time I’d be on it.
- thatcat 5y ago
  What was the dose of CBD you found effective?
  - moistly 5y ago
    I went for complete overkill and chowed down 30mg/capsule for a week, then melted them into oil & made brownies so that I could halve and quarter the dose. Did that for another couple of weeks. If anything, it seemed too effective at slowing peristalsis and the pain had largely gone away, so I stopped using the CBD but kept on with the probiotic pills (but taking them at a double dose because I figure it doubles the chance that they’ll make it past my stomach.) I’ll finish by taking a different probiotic pill with a different spectrum of bacteria et al. That plus my from-scratch diet should seed & support a replenished gut biota.

25 points by avnigo 5y ago

I’m hitting the paywall so I can’t read the article, but the headline reminds me of something Andrew Huberman talked about in one of his recent podcasts- https://youtu.be/rW9QKc-iFoY https://youtu.be/rW9QKc-iFoY It’s a small segment at the beginning, about a recent study showing how fermented foods help decrease inflammation possibly through increased gut bacteria diversity.

beckman466 5y ago
> I’m hitting the paywall so I can’t read the article https://archive.is/CtXTZ https://archive.is/CtXTZ
viraptor 5y ago
non-paywalled https://web.archive.org/web/20210814021023/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/well/eat/yogurt-kimchi-kombucha-microbiome.html https://web.archive.org/web/20210814021023/https://www.nytim...

amanaplanacanal 5y ago

Beer, pepperoni, and mozzarella are all fermented foods. Pizza and beer sounds like a fine diet :)

beckman466 5y ago
lol. maybe 'fermented vegetables' would have been a better title. although the common definition for 'fermented foods' don't include the ones you mentioned... but you already knew that haha
- willio58 5y ago
  Fermented milk can also be healthy!

Havoc 5y ago

Tricky bit is finding the real deal. Don’t have much faith in the large chains distribute anything that > teeming with live microorganisms,

988747 5y ago
Of course they don’t because those would have a very short shelf life. Fortunately those things are pretty easy to make at home
- madengr 5y ago
  Kimchi has a pretty long shelf life. The stuff sold as fresh kimchi has a several month “use by” date, and I’m sure the “old” kimchi is about a year old. When I made it, I never refrigerated it. I’m sure sauerkraut is the same.
viraptor 5y ago
You can relatively easily ferment food. Kimchi for example is trivial to do. Many milk-based fermented foods can be bought as ready-to-combine kits too.

treeman79 5y ago

I suffer from severe stomach pain due to inflammation. Lots of tums. Started drinking 2 kombucha a day a couple months ago. Stomach problems are almost entirely gone now. Only one data point. But it has helped.

stevenalowe 5y ago

Whiskey is now a health superfood?

moistly 5y ago

Speaking from personal experience: after a brutal round of antibiotics to kill a pathogen in my gut, I still had terrible issues — I believe from inflammation feeding into itself. A few weeks of pure CBD + probiotics has brought immense relief; I have since been able to drop the CBD; I will continue with a round of different probiotics to maximize the variety of gut microbes. I am finally, after several years of gut hell, optimistic that I’m going to get healthy. Edit: the CBD had the immediate effect of reducing peristalsis. Also made me fog-brained and sleepy, but I feel that was an acceptable side-effect for the limited time I’d be on it.

thatcat 5y ago
What was the dose of CBD you found effective?
- moistly 5y ago
  I went for complete overkill and chowed down 30mg/capsule for a week, then melted them into oil & made brownies so that I could halve and quarter the dose. Did that for another couple of weeks. If anything, it seemed too effective at slowing peristalsis and the pain had largely gone away, so I stopped using the CBD but kept on with the probiotic pills (but taking them at a double dose because I figure it doubles the chance that they’ll make it past my stomach.) I’ll finish by taking a different probiotic pill with a different spectrum of bacteria et al. That plus my from-scratch diet should seed & support a replenished gut biota.