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To hell with the bosses. Organize with a few friends/coworkers and start a workers cooperative, where every one is paid the same and has a say in decisions. Ho

To hell with the bosses. Organize with a few friends/coworkers and start a workers cooperative, where every one is paid the same and has a say in decisions. However, that requires some savings and some political perspective. I understand why someone who just struggles to pay their bills every month "thanks to" their corporate overlord (i.e. "wage slavery" as that is/was called) would not consider it a viable option. Organize with your fellow workers. Sabotage the company. Make your managers' lives miserable, but do it collectively ;)

janto 5y ago
Or create your own company. Sabotaging someone else's company and feeling entitled that they should give you money for your activity sounds like... theft?
- loceng 5y ago
  Sabotage is arguably far worse than theft; would be glad to have this kind of unreasonable-malicious individual filtering themselves out of my company - and ironically they certainly are a supporting point for companies who want to monitor and control to catch stated malicious behaviour/sabotage; they clearly have resentment and won't be as successful themselves as otherwise because they're wanting to waste energy, perhaps energy from anger - but certainly that of resentment - rather than directing it to do better themselves, which doesn't include sabotage or wasting energy; that's a violent and self-harmful act IMO. Re: theft - they didn't mention theft in their comment (unless they edited it out; why not version control on HN?) but the problem I have with theft is that it allows thieves to gain resources that they didn't develop to earn themselves, that they don't yet deserve - giving them power they don't deserve nor have learned how to wield adequately.
  - janto 5y ago
    I got an entitlement vibe from their comment which is why I brought up theft. Indeed yes, sabotage is worse than theft.
canadianfella 5y ago
Wage slavery? Sabotage the company? You have a very childish worldview.
newbamboo 5y ago
All the agonies you suffer You can end with one good whack!! Stiffen up, you ornery duffer And dump the bosses off your back

janto 5y ago

Or create your own company. Sabotaging someone else's company and feeling entitled that they should give you money for your activity sounds like... theft?

loceng 5y ago
Sabotage is arguably far worse than theft; would be glad to have this kind of unreasonable-malicious individual filtering themselves out of my company - and ironically they certainly are a supporting point for companies who want to monitor and control to catch stated malicious behaviour/sabotage; they clearly have resentment and won't be as successful themselves as otherwise because they're wanting to waste energy, perhaps energy from anger - but certainly that of resentment - rather than directing it to do better themselves, which doesn't include sabotage or wasting energy; that's a violent and self-harmful act IMO. Re: theft - they didn't mention theft in their comment (unless they edited it out; why not version control on HN?) but the problem I have with theft is that it allows thieves to gain resources that they didn't develop to earn themselves, that they don't yet deserve - giving them power they don't deserve nor have learned how to wield adequately.
- janto 5y ago
  I got an entitlement vibe from their comment which is why I brought up theft. Indeed yes, sabotage is worse than theft.

canadianfella 5y ago

Wage slavery? Sabotage the company? You have a very childish worldview.

newbamboo 5y ago

All the agonies you suffer You can end with one good whack!! Stiffen up, you ornery duffer And dump the bosses off your back