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Where did I blame the Desktop Environment? Nowhere did I state such, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I find the interoperability of my devices _great_

by Operyl 5y ago

Where did I blame the Desktop Environment? Nowhere did I state such, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I find the interoperability of my devices _great_ and I can't get that with Linux. I'd rather spend those hours tweaking servers, or projects, than some pointless (and typically subpar) Linux DE. I don't want to deal with that, as others have pointed out.

grawprog 5y ago
It's this thing you keep saying where endless tweaking is necessary. That is not true as I have stated multiple times. If you feel the need to constantly tweak things when you have the option to and can't help yourself that is purely a personal behaviour thing and nothing to do with any technology.
- Operyl 5y ago
  I only said this once, but I know I am not the only one. You asked, and you got an answer, on why people prefer systems where people get what they consider sane defaults. I have an endless curiosity, and if the way I need to deal with it is by making limiting decisions on purpose (while still getting a perfectly capable set of operating systems) then I will. Does my choice to limit what I know I have a weakness in mean I lack self control? I could still go after Linux and the endless dream if I wanted, but I chose not to?
- eropple 5y ago
  An environment that encourages rabbit-holing is going to be an environment less preferred by people who don't want to rabbit-hole. You can say that about KDE. You can also say that about "running Linux on a computer with a discrete graphics card". I do it. (I'm posting this from a Thinkpad with a Quadro, running Fedora, and I have to uninstall a kernel module when I go traveling in order to disable it so I get more than two hours of battery life.) I chose to. Maybe you did too. That doesn't mean you need to Leap To Its Defense every time somebody says it's not for them.
  - kcplate 5y ago
    > I have to uninstall a kernel module when I go traveling in order to disable it so I get more than two hours of battery life.) Holy moly…more power to you for this, I read it with horror. I just close my MacBook lid and throw it in my bag. I hope you don’t have to travel much.
    - eropple 5y ago
      I don't love MacOS, but yeah, I bring an M1 Air with me when I travel on a plane. And my desktop runs Windows with WSL for work stuff. Truth be told, the p52 doesn't run Linux as much anymore because it's a huge pain. Windows+WSL is good enough, and the primary reason I have a desktop replacement machine for my day job is for video processing.

by Operyl 5y ago

grawprog 5y ago

It's this thing you keep saying where endless tweaking is necessary. That is not true as I have stated multiple times. If you feel the need to constantly tweak things when you have the option to and can't help yourself that is purely a personal behaviour thing and nothing to do with any technology.

Operyl 5y ago
I only said this once, but I know I am not the only one. You asked, and you got an answer, on why people prefer systems where people get what they consider sane defaults. I have an endless curiosity, and if the way I need to deal with it is by making limiting decisions on purpose (while still getting a perfectly capable set of operating systems) then I will. Does my choice to limit what I know I have a weakness in mean I lack self control? I could still go after Linux and the endless dream if I wanted, but I chose not to?
eropple 5y ago
An environment that encourages rabbit-holing is going to be an environment less preferred by people who don't want to rabbit-hole. You can say that about KDE. You can also say that about "running Linux on a computer with a discrete graphics card". I do it. (I'm posting this from a Thinkpad with a Quadro, running Fedora, and I have to uninstall a kernel module when I go traveling in order to disable it so I get more than two hours of battery life.) I chose to. Maybe you did too. That doesn't mean you need to Leap To Its Defense every time somebody says it's not for them.
- kcplate 5y ago
  > I have to uninstall a kernel module when I go traveling in order to disable it so I get more than two hours of battery life.) Holy moly…more power to you for this, I read it with horror. I just close my MacBook lid and throw it in my bag. I hope you don’t have to travel much.
  - eropple 5y ago
    I don't love MacOS, but yeah, I bring an M1 Air with me when I travel on a plane. And my desktop runs Windows with WSL for work stuff. Truth be told, the p52 doesn't run Linux as much anymore because it's a huge pain. Windows+WSL is good enough, and the primary reason I have a desktop replacement machine for my day job is for video processing.