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What are they achieving? Let's say there is a pedo who has cp on his iPhone. He is scared that apple might be after him but he also sees how this scanning only

What are they achieving? Let's say there is a pedo who has cp on his iPhone. He is scared that apple might be after him but he also sees how this scanning only applies to cloud scanning so apple also gives this pedo option to not getting caught so what is the point ? I live in a place where the government arrests you for having a VPN installed on the phone and labels you a terrorist outright. My phone is checking with physical frisking on the roadside and content critical of state gets automatic manhandling and trip to the police station where I am treated as a criminal. How I see this as a problem not because I am not going to buy an iPhone in future, but because such ideology would be made normal. That is what is scaring me

nbzso 5y ago
Exactly. The technical implementation is trying to hide the fact that the design mojo of this system is an actual Backdoor for governments of the world to oppress, censure and do whatever they like. The technical implementation is optimized towards minimizing the cost for Apple. That's why they scan on the device. And this decision is made with knowledge that in the near future "scanning" will be not limited only to hashes. Scanning and processing will be required for $Some_Cool_Functionality to work.
- eecc 5y ago
  Like GMail?
  - nbzso 5y ago
    Gmail is on the Google servers. Did you pay for Gmail? Did Gmail has access to your computer by default? So on.. What analogy are you making? When Gmail advertised "What is on your Gmail, stays on your Gmail"? :)
    - eecc 5y ago
      No, no analogy. GMail scans every email and every attachment. Server side because - of course - it’s an online service. It’s main feature is analyzing and indexing so it’s a direct example of a killer feature based on content analysis. Even spam filters are. The same slippery slope applies there.

nbzso 5y ago

Exactly. The technical implementation is trying to hide the fact that the design mojo of this system is an actual Backdoor for governments of the world to oppress, censure and do whatever they like. The technical implementation is optimized towards minimizing the cost for Apple. That's why they scan on the device. And this decision is made with knowledge that in the near future "scanning" will be not limited only to hashes. Scanning and processing will be required for $Some_Cool_Functionality to work.

eecc 5y ago
Like GMail?
- nbzso 5y ago
  Gmail is on the Google servers. Did you pay for Gmail? Did Gmail has access to your computer by default? So on.. What analogy are you making? When Gmail advertised "What is on your Gmail, stays on your Gmail"? :)
  - eecc 5y ago
    No, no analogy. GMail scans every email and every attachment. Server side because - of course - it’s an online service. It’s main feature is analyzing and indexing so it’s a direct example of a killer feature based on content analysis. Even spam filters are. The same slippery slope applies there.