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’’’ None of the 3nm node process orders will be for its consumer market processors, namely Raptor Lake, which is expected to launch in mid-to-late 2022. ’’’

by d136o 5y ago

baybal2 5y ago
So, Xeon will it be?
- nly 5y ago
  Knowing Intel they bought it just so AMD or Apple couldn't have it
  - oumua_don17 5y ago
    This is assuming that TSMC is naive and gullible enough to strike an agreement with a temporary customer who is more a competitor that results in destroying relationship with long term trusted customers. As another commenter pointed out it is more for Aurora and is a limited quantity order. And IIRC from articles posted online this super computer GPU samples were fabbed in Intel’s fabs. So I would expect more delays given Intel has to redesign for TSMC flows.
  - dev_tty01 5y ago
    No, I don't think so. The headline is "all remaining" production. No doubt Apple already has what they want. Probably AMD too. Apple is a longtime huge customer. Intel has to get in the back of the line.
ksec 5y ago
Oh Thank You. Finally one useful piece of signal given all the noise about this. If this is true I am willing to bet it is GPU and CPU made for Aurora SuperComputer. Which was originally aimed to launch in 2018, pushed to 2020, and now expected ( somehow ) to be done in 2021. Since we haven't heard anything from it, and the original schedule of 2021 never made any sense due to the usage of Intel 4nm ( previously Intel 7nm ), they had to deliver it ASAP. And media are making big fuss out it. I mean like for pete sake it is only 20,000 Xeon + 60,000 GPU, When normalised to Die Space it isn't even 1 Million Apple Smartphone chip. And Apple is expected to have 60M+ shipped.
- blagie 5y ago
  ... and rumors are that it's nowhere near on-track. I'm wondering when the Powers That Be decide to stop throwing bad money after good.

’’’ None of the 3nm node process orders will be for its consumer market processors, namely Raptor Lake, which is expected to launch in mid-to-late 2022. ’’’

by d136o 5y ago

’’’ None of the 3nm node process orders will be for its consumer market processors, namely Raptor Lake, which is expected to launch in mid-to-late 2022. ’’’

baybal2 5y ago

So, Xeon will it be?

nly 5y ago
Knowing Intel they bought it just so AMD or Apple couldn't have it
- oumua_don17 5y ago
  This is assuming that TSMC is naive and gullible enough to strike an agreement with a temporary customer who is more a competitor that results in destroying relationship with long term trusted customers. As another commenter pointed out it is more for Aurora and is a limited quantity order. And IIRC from articles posted online this super computer GPU samples were fabbed in Intel’s fabs. So I would expect more delays given Intel has to redesign for TSMC flows.
- dev_tty01 5y ago
  No, I don't think so. The headline is "all remaining" production. No doubt Apple already has what they want. Probably AMD too. Apple is a longtime huge customer. Intel has to get in the back of the line.

ksec 5y ago

Oh Thank You. Finally one useful piece of signal given all the noise about this. If this is true I am willing to bet it is GPU and CPU made for Aurora SuperComputer. Which was originally aimed to launch in 2018, pushed to 2020, and now expected ( somehow ) to be done in 2021. Since we haven't heard anything from it, and the original schedule of 2021 never made any sense due to the usage of Intel 4nm ( previously Intel 7nm ), they had to deliver it ASAP. And media are making big fuss out it. I mean like for pete sake it is only 20,000 Xeon + 60,000 GPU, When normalised to Die Space it isn't even 1 Million Apple Smartphone chip. And Apple is expected to have 60M+ shipped.

blagie 5y ago
... and rumors are that it's nowhere near on-track. I'm wondering when the Powers That Be decide to stop throwing bad money after good.