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He's not confusing it with something else. He's describing ~VB4-6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_(classic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_B

by mftb 5y ago

He's not confusing it with something else. He's describing ~VB4-6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_(classic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_(classic)

commandlinefan 5y ago
Yes, VB from the 90s. I moved to web development and haven’t looked at it again since - they may have improved it since.
perl4ever 5y ago
Designing an interface layout by drag and drop has been around since basically the beginning of GUIs. It's not "no-code", it's just defining the interface in a standard way as data. People have tried from time to time to make a programming environment to appeal to, that is graspable by, people who are allergic to entering code in a text editor. Sometimes it looks sort of like "programming" by drawing a flow chart. And it generally, as far as I know, either fails to be easy enough for most people, or makes anything complex horribly cumbersome. As I said, Power Automate is a (horrible) example. "a visual programming language (VPL) is any programming language that lets users create programs by manipulating program elements graphically rather than by specifying them textually." "The Visual Basic, Visual C#, Visual J# etc. languages of the Microsoft Visual Studio IDE are not visual programming languages: the representation of algorithms etc. is textual even though the IDE embellishes the editing and debugging activities with a rich user interface." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language So the original comment sounded perfectly reasonable to me, except it sounded like a critique of something other than VB. I remember this from the 90s, although I never used it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > Designing an interface layout by drag and drop has been around since basically the beginning of GUIs. It's not "no-code", it's just defining the interface in a standard way as data. The GGP didn't call VB "no-code". That was referring to Salesforce.

by mftb 5y ago

He's not confusing it with something else. He's describing ~VB4-6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_(classic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_(classic)

commandlinefan 5y ago

Yes, VB from the 90s. I moved to web development and haven’t looked at it again since - they may have improved it since.

perl4ever 5y ago

Designing an interface layout by drag and drop has been around since basically the beginning of GUIs. It's not "no-code", it's just defining the interface in a standard way as data. People have tried from time to time to make a programming environment to appeal to, that is graspable by, people who are allergic to entering code in a text editor. Sometimes it looks sort of like "programming" by drawing a flow chart. And it generally, as far as I know, either fails to be easy enough for most people, or makes anything complex horribly cumbersome. As I said, Power Automate is a (horrible) example. "a visual programming language (VPL) is any programming language that lets users create programs by manipulating program elements graphically rather than by specifying them textually." "The Visual Basic, Visual C#, Visual J# etc. languages of the Microsoft Visual Studio IDE are not visual programming languages: the representation of algorithms etc. is textual even though the IDE embellishes the editing and debugging activities with a rich user interface." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language So the original comment sounded perfectly reasonable to me, except it sounded like a critique of something other than VB. I remember this from the 90s, although I never used it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph

CRConrad 5y ago
> Designing an interface layout by drag and drop has been around since basically the beginning of GUIs. It's not "no-code", it's just defining the interface in a standard way as data. The GGP didn't call VB "no-code". That was referring to Salesforce.