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> What I personally don’t understand is why Apple didn’t come out with a different message: we’ve made your iPhone so secure that we’ll let it vouch for your be
by unityByFreedom 5y ago
> What I personally don’t understand is why Apple didn’t come out with a different message: we’ve made your iPhone so secure that we’ll let it vouch for your behalf when it sends us data to store. We don’t want to see the data, and we won’t see any of it unless we find that lots of the photos you send us are fishy.
That is PR speak that would have landed worse in tech forums. I respect them more for not doing this.
The core issue is this performs scans, without your approval, on your local device. Viruses already do that and it's something techies have always feared governments might impose. That private companies are apparently being strong-armed into doing it is concerning because it means the government is trying to circumvent the process of public discussion that is typically facilitated by proposing legislation.
- zepto 5y ago> without your approval This isn’t true. You can always turn off iCloud Photo Library and just store the photos locally or use a different cloud provider.
- unityByFreedom 5y agoLet's not pretend anyone is really "opting in" on this feature.
- zepto 5y agoAnyone who doesn’t like it can switch off iCloud Photo Library. I can imagine many people doing that in response to this news.
- unityByFreedom 5y agoThe fact that you can opt out for now does not set me at ease.
- zepto 5y agoNor me. I will not opt out because I think there is no threat to me and I like iCloud photos. That doesn’t mean I like the presence of this mechanism.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago> That doesn’t mean I like the presence of this mechanism. I don't think I ever said you did.
- zepto 5y agoNo - but you did suggest there was no opting in. I’m pointing out that just because I’m not entirely happy with the choice doesn’t mean it isn’t a choice.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago> doesn’t mean it isn’t a choice. People who haven't heard what Apple is doing are not presented with a choice. Not everyone follows tech news so closely.
- upbeat_general 5y agoI hate this argument. Pressing yes to the T&C once when you setup an Apple account doesn’t exactly constitute my approval imo (even if it does legally). There’s no disable button or even clear indication that it’s going on.
- dwaite 5y ago> There’s no disable button or even clear indication that it’s going on. iCloud Photos is an on-off switch. In terms of clearly indicating everything that is going on within the service, that is just not possible for most non-tech users. It appears to have been pretty difficult even for those familiar with things like cryptography and E2E systems to understand the nuances and protections in place. Instead, the expectation should be that using _any_ company's cloud hosting or cloud synchronization features is fundamentally sharing your data with them. It should then be any vendor's responsibility give give customers guarantees on which to evaluate trust.
- unityByFreedom 5y agoNo, the comment above meant there's no explicitly marked disable button. People who don't follow tech news won't hear about this.