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Why not their IT department also? And management? Why are companies like Amazon constantly kicking the shit out of the lowest paid employees!?

spaetzleesser 5y ago
Modern management believes that the lower ranks need the whip while upper ranks need the carrot to get motivated. It's the same as people are getting nervous about inflation when lower wages are rising but not when the top 1% incomes are going up.
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- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Modern management believes that the lower ranks need the whip while upper ranks need the carrot to get motivated For some in the upper ranks, applying the whip to lower ranks is the carrot.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  > It's the same as people are getting nervous about inflation when lower wages are rising but not when the top 1% incomes are going up. Not really. Which do you think is a larger increase in total income? - Bottom 50% of all wages increase by 5% - Top 1% of all wages increase by 20%
  - random314 5y ago
    Average top 1%ile income 1.7M USD. 20% increase = 340K. Average Bottom 50%ile wage = 46K USD. 5% increase = 2.3K Multiply by 50 = 115K So the 20% increase in top 1%ile represents a 3X increase in total income when compared with bottom 50%ile.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      I'm willing to believe this, but I want to be clear - you've marked an average bottom 50% wage and an average top 1% income. Is that top 1% wage income or all income?
      - random314 5y ago
        How does it matter to inflation, whether it is wage income or otherwise?
        thaumasiotes 5y ago
        The bottom 50% has plenty of non-wage income too.
- fennecfoxen 5y ago
  > people are getting nervous about inflation when lower wages are rising Our current wage growth of ~3% combined with inflation of ~5% means that real wages have been falling at about 2%. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/wages-are-rising-but-has-inflation-given-workers-a-2percent-pay-cut.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/wages-are-rising-but-has-inf... The WSJ added: > Average weekly earnings since January are up $15.59, but with inflation surging to levels not seen since the early 1980s, real weekly wages are down $8.99, the largest real-dollar drop in wages since Bureau of Labor Statistics data were first collected in 2006. By comparison, real wages have fallen more in the past seven months than they rose in the final 27 months of the Obama presidency. https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation-government-spending-workers-prices-wage-growth-stagnation-monetary-policy-biden-11628710715 https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation-government-spending-w... Check out the BLS (bls.gov) for the latest data and hope it doesn't get worse.
porknubbins 5y ago
I’ve seen this kind of thing a lot. Two reasons this always happens to the lowest ranked. First because they can- these jobs are largely easily replaceable so even if the workers resist they will be quickly replaced by someone who can be pushed around. Second because people constantly come and go from these jobs they tend to attract some bad apples so there is some need to monitor them more closely.
awsthro00945 5y ago
The purpose of the monitoring is to prevent data theft, and is specifically for customer service associates. Customer service associates have access to sensitive customer data that even management or IT employees do not have.

spaetzleesser 5y ago

Modern management believes that the lower ranks need the whip while upper ranks need the carrot to get motivated. It's the same as people are getting nervous about inflation when lower wages are rising but not when the top 1% incomes are going up.

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dragonwriter 5y ago
> Modern management believes that the lower ranks need the whip while upper ranks need the carrot to get motivated For some in the upper ranks, applying the whip to lower ranks is the carrot.
thaumasiotes 5y ago
> It's the same as people are getting nervous about inflation when lower wages are rising but not when the top 1% incomes are going up. Not really. Which do you think is a larger increase in total income? - Bottom 50% of all wages increase by 5% - Top 1% of all wages increase by 20%
- random314 5y ago
  Average top 1%ile income 1.7M USD. 20% increase = 340K. Average Bottom 50%ile wage = 46K USD. 5% increase = 2.3K Multiply by 50 = 115K So the 20% increase in top 1%ile represents a 3X increase in total income when compared with bottom 50%ile.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    I'm willing to believe this, but I want to be clear - you've marked an average bottom 50% wage and an average top 1% income. Is that top 1% wage income or all income?
    - random314 5y ago
      How does it matter to inflation, whether it is wage income or otherwise?
      - thaumasiotes 5y ago
        The bottom 50% has plenty of non-wage income too.
fennecfoxen 5y ago
> people are getting nervous about inflation when lower wages are rising Our current wage growth of ~3% combined with inflation of ~5% means that real wages have been falling at about 2%. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/wages-are-rising-but-has-inflation-given-workers-a-2percent-pay-cut.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/wages-are-rising-but-has-inf... The WSJ added: > Average weekly earnings since January are up $15.59, but with inflation surging to levels not seen since the early 1980s, real weekly wages are down $8.99, the largest real-dollar drop in wages since Bureau of Labor Statistics data were first collected in 2006. By comparison, real wages have fallen more in the past seven months than they rose in the final 27 months of the Obama presidency. https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation-government-spending-workers-prices-wage-growth-stagnation-monetary-policy-biden-11628710715 https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation-government-spending-w... Check out the BLS (bls.gov) for the latest data and hope it doesn't get worse.

porknubbins 5y ago

I’ve seen this kind of thing a lot. Two reasons this always happens to the lowest ranked. First because they can- these jobs are largely easily replaceable so even if the workers resist they will be quickly replaced by someone who can be pushed around. Second because people constantly come and go from these jobs they tend to attract some bad apples so there is some need to monitor them more closely.

awsthro00945 5y ago

The purpose of the monitoring is to prevent data theft, and is specifically for customer service associates. Customer service associates have access to sensitive customer data that even management or IT employees do not have.