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My point wasn't "the West has it wrong, you have to dive into the Eastern traditions for the real answers". It was more, "it's really complicated in Eastern tra
by Trasmatta 5y ago
My point wasn't "the West has it wrong, you have to dive into the Eastern traditions for the real answers". It was more, "it's really complicated in Eastern traditions already, and we've muddied the water even further by adding our own expectations and biases on top of that".
So what I mean is that some people, like Culudasa, probably experienced a brain state that might be called "enlightenment" in some contexts. But either we've been way oversold what that actually means, or he only reached one of the lower "stages of awakening" and hadn't yet fully, and permanently, abandoned all the fetters.
(I tend to think it's probably the former.)
- loopz 5y agoThere are many states, of brain and matter. None of them - none, behavioural concerns or even desires or not, have anything to do with enlightenment. It's even meaningless to appoint so and so enlightened. In fact, stating such displays the ignorance. No tradition have exclusive rights either. What we can do is point the direction, what it is not, etc., when someone is seeking realization.