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US law makes them responsible for what they host, to a reasonable, discretionary degree. Literally *every* technology company that I know of scans for CSAM for
by defaultname 5y ago
US law makes them responsible for what they host, to a reasonable, discretionary degree. Literally *every* technology company that I know of scans for CSAM for this reason. Apple is only implementing this for photos that go to iCloud Photos for this reason.
They are surely not required to scan client devices, and that was a foolishly, ill-considered plan (that I still would wager they will abandon), however they absolutely must scan iCloud Photos unless they were technically incapable of doing this. US law doesn't say "you go to jail if you don't", it says "you face enormous liability if you don't".
- throwaway81523 5y agoI have dedicated and virtual servers at OVH and Hetzner and other companies. I'm quite confident they don't scan for anything on the hard drives. One of the selling points of Scaleway.com's C14 backup product (previous incarnation, don't know about current one) was that the storage was encrypted and that they would delete their copy of the decryption key if you checked a box. If you chose that option, you could not restore your backup without re-entering the key (block of hex digits that you had to copy on making the backup). It wouldn't surprise me if that resulted in the obvious sob stories about lost keys. Those are not US companies but I've never heard of AWS, DO, etc. scanning people's storage either.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y ago> but I've never heard of AWS, DO, etc. scanning people's storage either. Pre-Snowden, that was insourced by the NSA.
- noduerme 5y agoAWS offers encrypted backups, and afaik there's no scanning of anything you put in a bucket, but why trust them? Just encrypt your own backups before uploading them, and keep your own keys. In other words, your storage provider needn't and shouldn't be the purveyor of your backup software. Except with an iPhone, you don't have a choice.