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It's based on realtime activity and time decay so far, with ideas for enhancing it as the site grows. So far the reception has been positive and people apprecia

by holler 5y ago

It's based on realtime activity and time decay so far, with ideas for enhancing it as the site grows. So far the reception has been positive and people appreciate that it's just focused on conversation. Def aware that scaling it past a small user base may be challenging, but I also see opportunities to experiment in that regard. Then again, I could find out that the majority of people prefer to simply "like" something.

tooltower 5y ago
I fear this this dynamics will promote highly controversial topics. Even here in HN, a topic with many comments and few upvotes have a higher temperature, more reported comments. It sounds like you are selecting for exactly that. That said, it's always hard to know until you have a large user base.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  Trolls are graded on the inverse of the ratio of characters they type vs. characters typed back at them. If you can get people to type novels back at your poorly spelled, no caps, no punctuation incomplete sentence, you win.
  - actually_a_dog 5y ago
    That is hilarious. I also suspect that highly trolled topics might have a higher number of replies per view overall.
  - strogonoff 5y ago
    Trolls will continue winning in ad-supported social media. A troll is fantastic at engaging large numbers of eyeballs. A low-quality trollish sentence is quick to write; drop a few of them here and there and you got a few lurkers graduate to what the platform can now claim as “active users”. It’s a symbiotic relationship. (In this regard, as far as I’m concerned, for a novel type of social networking platform it’s much more important to be paid, rather than play around with likes and algorithms. Long-term business model will prevail—if your paying users are the advertisers, you’ll align with them sooner or later.)
    - holler 5y ago
      > A low-quality trollish sentence is quick to write; drop a few of them here and there and you got a few lurkers graduate to what the platform can now claim as “active users”. It’s a symbiotic relationship. Agree, trolls will always try to game the system. I like the idea of optimizing for quality users vs quality content. You can always add optional controls for conversations as well e.g. account age restriction.
      - strogonoff 5y ago
        I'm not really blaming trolls for gaming the system. Rather, I'm saying that any ad-based platform will one way or another evolve to have such an UI that encourages trolls, because they help its bottom line.

by holler 5y ago

tooltower 5y ago

I fear this this dynamics will promote highly controversial topics. Even here in HN, a topic with many comments and few upvotes have a higher temperature, more reported comments. It sounds like you are selecting for exactly that. That said, it's always hard to know until you have a large user base.

pessimizer 5y ago
Trolls are graded on the inverse of the ratio of characters they type vs. characters typed back at them. If you can get people to type novels back at your poorly spelled, no caps, no punctuation incomplete sentence, you win.
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  That is hilarious. I also suspect that highly trolled topics might have a higher number of replies per view overall.
- strogonoff 5y ago
  Trolls will continue winning in ad-supported social media. A troll is fantastic at engaging large numbers of eyeballs. A low-quality trollish sentence is quick to write; drop a few of them here and there and you got a few lurkers graduate to what the platform can now claim as “active users”. It’s a symbiotic relationship. (In this regard, as far as I’m concerned, for a novel type of social networking platform it’s much more important to be paid, rather than play around with likes and algorithms. Long-term business model will prevail—if your paying users are the advertisers, you’ll align with them sooner or later.)
  - holler 5y ago
    > A low-quality trollish sentence is quick to write; drop a few of them here and there and you got a few lurkers graduate to what the platform can now claim as “active users”. It’s a symbiotic relationship. Agree, trolls will always try to game the system. I like the idea of optimizing for quality users vs quality content. You can always add optional controls for conversations as well e.g. account age restriction.
    - strogonoff 5y ago
      I'm not really blaming trolls for gaming the system. Rather, I'm saying that any ad-based platform will one way or another evolve to have such an UI that encourages trolls, because they help its bottom line.