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> cancel culture IMHO “cancel culture” is just “consequence culture.”

thephyber 5y ago
Oh the IRONY of people (who ostensibly disagree with cancel culture) downvoting a comment on a board that auto-hides upon negative net score.
- flippinburgers 5y ago
  One act expresses disagreement, the other - cancel culture - is tied to getting a person fired from their job or otherwise cutting off their ability to feed themselves. One of these is vastly more significant than the other.
  - _moof 5y ago
    Downvotes are not for disagreement.
    - gruez 5y ago
      in practice they are.
      - AussieWog93 5y ago
        I like to think of them as a signal to STFU, but as you said this would most likely be targeted at people you disagree with.
  - thephyber 5y ago
    I would argue firings are extremely rare compared to brigading of voting, commenting, reporting systems and trending topics. A reasonable interpretation of “cancel culture” would include the less severe ways of kicking content/people off of platforms as well.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  I disagree with the comment and find it very shallow, but I do not demand its author to be punished, banned from the forum, fired or stalked. Rejecting cancel culture is not equal to "never expressing any disagreement whatsoever".
mc32 5y ago
Not when there is little if any due process and the opposite that when there is a favorite son like mr Cuomo despite the many accusations enjoyed great support from all the major players in the party and the mainstream media (Emmy award?) till the water could not be bailed out any longer. So, yeah, thanks but no thanks. There is no due process and no consequences for false accusers.
AussieWog93 5y ago
If the consequences had any semblance of consistency or proportionality, then that may be the case. Instead, you have some people's lives ruined for a dumb joke on Twitter, and others getting away scot free with actual sexual assault because the substantive and evidence-supported accusations were covered up before they could go viral. As it stands, I think cancel culture more closely resembles the 2 minutes' hate from 1984 than actual justice.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  The most disturbed I've been by the woke wave is the multiple times I've heard Weinstein's actions referred to as "sexual harassment" by low-information online types a few times (in person.) The outrage and canceling of random actors for commenting on a woman's body on twitter once, and huge, daily reactions to other celebrity trivialities has flattened out the entire subject until a physically aggressive serial rapist becomes just another sexual harasser.
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echelon 5y ago
You're getting consequenced right now.
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nothrow0x0 5y ago
They're just being held accountable for their beliefs and actions right?
TrackerFF 5y ago
I agree that people should face the consequence of their actions - heinous acts warrant a response. What I can't get behind, is people sifting through the entire (online and offline) history of people, in the hopes of finding some evidence of wrongdoing, no mater how small or trivial, and then starting a cancel campaign. That kind of behavior is just plain creepy and stalkerish, bordering the psychotic.

Oh the IRONY of people (who ostensibly disagree with cancel culture) downvoting a comment on a board that auto-hides upon negative net score.

flippinburgers 5y ago
One act expresses disagreement, the other - cancel culture - is tied to getting a person fired from their job or otherwise cutting off their ability to feed themselves. One of these is vastly more significant than the other.
- _moof 5y ago
  Downvotes are not for disagreement.
  - gruez 5y ago
    in practice they are.
    - AussieWog93 5y ago
      I like to think of them as a signal to STFU, but as you said this would most likely be targeted at people you disagree with.
- thephyber 5y ago
  I would argue firings are extremely rare compared to brigading of voting, commenting, reporting systems and trending topics. A reasonable interpretation of “cancel culture” would include the less severe ways of kicking content/people off of platforms as well.
inglor_cz 5y ago
I disagree with the comment and find it very shallow, but I do not demand its author to be punished, banned from the forum, fired or stalked. Rejecting cancel culture is not equal to "never expressing any disagreement whatsoever".

mc32 5y ago

Not when there is little if any due process and the opposite that when there is a favorite son like mr Cuomo despite the many accusations enjoyed great support from all the major players in the party and the mainstream media (Emmy award?) till the water could not be bailed out any longer. So, yeah, thanks but no thanks. There is no due process and no consequences for false accusers.

AussieWog93 5y ago

If the consequences had any semblance of consistency or proportionality, then that may be the case. Instead, you have some people's lives ruined for a dumb joke on Twitter, and others getting away scot free with actual sexual assault because the substantive and evidence-supported accusations were covered up before they could go viral. As it stands, I think cancel culture more closely resembles the 2 minutes' hate from 1984 than actual justice.

pessimizer 5y ago
The most disturbed I've been by the woke wave is the multiple times I've heard Weinstein's actions referred to as "sexual harassment" by low-information online types a few times (in person.) The outrage and canceling of random actors for commenting on a woman's body on twitter once, and huge, daily reactions to other celebrity trivialities has flattened out the entire subject until a physically aggressive serial rapist becomes just another sexual harasser.

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echelon 5y ago

You're getting consequenced right now.

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nothrow0x0 5y ago

They're just being held accountable for their beliefs and actions right?

TrackerFF 5y ago

I agree that people should face the consequence of their actions - heinous acts warrant a response. What I can't get behind, is people sifting through the entire (online and offline) history of people, in the hopes of finding some evidence of wrongdoing, no mater how small or trivial, and then starting a cancel campaign. That kind of behavior is just plain creepy and stalkerish, bordering the psychotic.