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Except when it's vi and casual vim users can't figure out why nothing works
by bluedino 5y ago
Except when it's vi and casual vim users can't figure out why nothing works
- trey-jones 5y agoAren't casual vim users really vi users? I use emacs primarily but years ago created an extremely minimal (~20 lines) .vimrc to be installed by default on every server I work on. Some color, maybe indentation, I don't even know because I usually just use Emacs/TRAMP these days, but I'm nearly 100% sure that every config there works in vi. I would consider myself a casual vim/vi user in that I don't know the differences.
- hn8788 5y agoI may be misremembering, but the biggest differences I remember between vi and vim as a semi-casual user is vi defaults to not supporting arrow keys, and doesn't tell you the mode it's in.
- wahern 5y agoI can't remember the last time I used vi and was unable to use arrow keys. That includes typical Linux installations (Vim, Busybox), Solaris (default is Vim, oddly, but I just confirmed arrow keys work in /usr/xpg4/bin/vi), and various BSDs (nvi). I'm not a power vi user, though. I usually use JOE (thanks/blame to '90s Slackware education), but occasionally vi is more convenient. It wouldn't be nearly as convenient without the arrow keys as I never learned proper typing technique.
- bluedino 5y agoRaspbian, for example included vim-tiny
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- citrin_ru 5y agoJust tested FreeBSD vi and BusyBox vi - arrows work in both, but I rarely use them (only in insert mode), so can may not notice if they are not supported somewhere. The biggest difference for me is lack of visual mode in vi.