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A FISA subpoena or an NSL can only compel Apple to give certain types of information that Apple already has. They can’t compel Apple to gather information they
by ls612 5y ago
A FISA subpoena or an NSL can only compel Apple to give certain types of information that Apple already has. They can’t compel Apple to gather information they don’t already have.
- kook_throwaway 5y agoYou have far more faith in a system of secret courts and gag orders than I do.
- busymom0 5y agoYep. FBI Lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith gets to lie to the FISA court, fabricate emails to get 2-hop warrants and then gets zero days in prison and as of this month is allowed to practice law again. It's an absolute joke.
- captainredbeard 5y agoHahaha an NSL can do more than that.
- adrr 5y agoThat can’t be true because the old pen/trap orders required installation of a device to record the calls.
- ls612 5y agoA wiretap order is a different kind of order and goes through the district court, not FISA. The legal standard for it is also much higher than for other subpoenas by statute.
- adrr 5y agoFISA is from the 1970s and covered wiretapping. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveil...
- heavyset_go 5y agoCheck this out[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)#/media/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)#/...
- aasasd 5y agoTurns out that evil bastards also have no sense of beauty or proper data formatting.