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The Chinese didn't do anything that we wouldn't have done. In fact, they took better steps than we did, as far as the pandemic is concerned. Of course the dude
by shakezula 5y ago
The Chinese didn't do anything that we wouldn't have done. In fact, they took better steps than we did, as far as the pandemic is concerned.
Of course the dude had concerns, anyone with half a brain would explore all of the possible origins and theories. But the lab leak theory is just that - one theory that could explain the situation at hand.
The problem is that too many people have put far too much stock in the lab leak theory to the point that it's being treated as the most likely source of origin, but that's just not what the evidence says.
- cm2187 5y agoI'd like to think we don't put doctors in jail when they raise the alarm on a new virus.
- shakezula 5y agoSure, and I'd like to think we don't run scientific tests on black people without their knowledge or consent, but that doesn't line up either. If you think the U.S. is above unlawfully detaining a doctor, then I've got sad news for you.
- iammisc 5y agoGreat argument... if the US did this, I'm sure no one would demand an investigation... /s
- trasz 5y agoUS did this many times. The investigations ended up like they usually do in US, starting from My Lai - in the best case they’ll find a single scapegoat and that’s it.
- iammisc 5y agoI'm not claiming the us didnt do this. I'm disputing that people would stay silent when the us does this. The us does do this and has large and growing domestic opposition movements.
- trasz 5y agoYou mean Li Wenliang, the doctor who was eventually decorated - by Chinese government - for speaking up? He was never put to jail. That’s another case of anti-Chinese propaganda for you.
- aesh2Xa1 5y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang Born 12 October 1985 Beizhen, Jinzhou, Liaoning, China Died 7 February 2020 (aged 34) Wuhan, Hubei, China Cause of death COVID-19 Yes, all of that suspicious propaganda about the Chinese government's treatment of dissidents. The decoration came after his death at 34 years old. > He died from the disease on 7 February 2020, at age 34.[8][9] A subsequent Chinese official inquiry exonerated him, and the Communist Party of China formally offered a "solemn apology" to his family and revoked the admonishment of him.
- rcurry 5y agoWell, we do block them on Facebook and Twitter.
- aesh2Xa1 5y agoWhat are you talking about (serious)? Dissent is legal and will not result in imprisonment in the US. I don't even subscribe to Facebook or Twitter by choice. I definitely wouldn't subscribe to imprisonment by choice, haha. If you're concerned about these platforms controlling their content privately, don't use them.
- quantum_magpie 5y agoWell, the US seems hellbent on shipping one journalist who broke no law in US to their torture chambers. Until that's sorted out you just can't claim moral superiority.
- rcurry 5y agoForget it Jake, it’s Chinatown.
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- curation 5y agoAssange?
- diragon 5y agoThis is of course a joke, come on you guys. Nobody seriously compares jailing people to blocking them on social media.
- rcurry 5y agoIt’s the thought that counts, the social media platforms that ban you would gladly put you in a gulag if they could.
- vkou 5y agoWe just fire them, when they complain about hospital administrators sending them into COVID wards without PPE.
- diragon 5y agoWhat the Chinese do is different in that when the government orders the people to do something, they actually do it. Depending on what you think about the virtues of government, that's something between a pretty good thing or the worst horror you can imagine.
- shakezula 5y agoI don’t think Americans understand the government having that type of involvement tbh. It’s just so foreign a concept to us as a whole. It’s kind of arrogant tbh.
- diragon 5y agoWait, what is arrogant? Having a government that orders people directly? Or not understanding such a government?
- dTal 5y agoDo we really have to reduce it to such a simplistic scale as "government good" vs "government bad"? It's like trying to discuss obesity in terms of whether food is good or bad.
- PicassoCTs 5y agoWhat actually happened is not what the media reported? The china in the media is not real. Its a fabrication,synthesized by the CCP who is in control of all chinese news sources. On the ground, the news of the virus was first supressed by local officials, allowing lots of people to attempt a "escape" from wuhan, when they got informed by relatives that something was up. When the pot boiled over, the bejing government stepped in and "walled" in wuhan. But they told that first and acted later, allowing thousands to "escape" ( they boasted about this on social media, thats how we know) and they escaped into lots of other countries - because while national flights were cancelled, international flights were still allowed. This thing has been a lecture in disastrous disaster management - nothing more, nothing less. Its proof that totalitarian states even suck at the one thing they claim to be good at- being totalitarian.