4 ms·

> Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember when the head of the previous administratio

> Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember when the head of the previous administration thought injecting disinfectants or UV light was a possible solution to Covid? The problem with trust and credibility is that once it’s lost, it’s very hard to gain back. Even if the broken clock is right twice a day, it’s still broken.

99_00 5y ago
There was public information about the UVA catheter at the time Trump made his comments. >The findings, published in the peer-reviewed journal Advances in Therapy, were based on five days of 20-minute treatments with ultraviolet A (UVA) light using a catheter inserted into the patients' tracheas. Patients were followed for 30 days. The findings were based on four patients; the fifth patient had no detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 at the study outset. https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-se... >The problem with trust and credibility is that once it’s lost, it’s very hard to gain back. Are you talking about corporate media? They seem to break trust constantly, and a large % of the population continues to trust them.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  Wait... that can't be true. Because the media immediately published this https://youtu.be/fr5OopWwp98 https://youtu.be/fr5OopWwp98 and they laughed the idea away. So far I've seen no retractions.
  - alimw 5y ago
    Did you post the wrong link? The doctors in that clip don't actually mention the UV light thing, although they are clear in their opposition to injecting disinfectant.
SnowProblem 5y ago
Aytu BioPharma is a small company bringing UV light into the body, and the early trials on COVID last year showed it worked. The same was true for Hydroxychloroquine too. You fell for propaganda. https://aytubio.com/pipeline/healight-technology-platform/ https://aytubio.com/pipeline/healight-technology-platform/
- phatfish 5y ago
  Hydroxychloroquine has a mountain of side effects worse than COVID for most people, and very little (if any) positive effect. Maybe UV could help in some way, but was this ever going to be a real solution? I highly doubt Aytu BioPharma was in a position to deliver anything meaningful at the volume and time-scale required. Trump simply had no clue what a workable solution looked like. He broadcast to the world as the American President the ideas of the most recent crazy to have his ear (or one that he read on Twitter), and then got a bruised ego and doubled down when shown his ideas were worthless. No propaganda there.
  - SnowProblem 5y ago
    The side effects of HCQ were very overstated. The first study [1] that was pushed by the media to discredit Trump saying HCQ might be dangerous to the heart was later retracted [2] because the authors refused to share its data. The best metaanalysis today shows HCQ works to treat COVID if used early and is safe at the right doses [3]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/malaria-drug-trump-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/malaria-drug-trump... [2] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... [3] https://hcqmeta.com/ https://hcqmeta.com/
camhart 5y ago
He said they were going to look into it. He didn't break trust with your example because he didn't make a statement of fact that it was a cure. He said they'd look into it. Now if all you do is read the title of articles or videos from left leaning news site, you may walk away with the belief that he's telling people to inject it. But he's not. He says they're going to look into it. Watch the video for yourself (and take note at the video title): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE. I want to add--I'm in no way indicating the right leaning news sites don't do the same. They've both screwed the country up by failing to report news without some bias slapped all over everything.
iammisc 5y ago
> The problem with trust and credibility is that once it’s lost, it’s very hard to gain back. Even if the broken clock is right twice a day, it’s still broken. If that's the case, then the previous administration's opponents ought to look in the mirror, because they were the first anti-vaxxers, the first covid deniers (pelosi's statements that people should not be afraid of covid in late jan/early feb in chinatown, despite having access to the same intelligence as trump), and Dr Fauci lying to the US congress about gain of function research. Honestly, given what's happened in the last two years on both sides, it should come as no surprise that no one trusts the federal government.
99_00 5y ago
You can't blame corporate media and the scientific establishment, and big tech's active suppression of this topic on Trump. That's on them. Do you think corporate media is giving the recent information the weight it deserves, given the fact that 4.3 million people died so far, and untold damage was done to the global economy and mental health?

99_00 5y ago

There was public information about the UVA catheter at the time Trump made his comments. >The findings, published in the peer-reviewed journal Advances in Therapy, were based on five days of 20-minute treatments with ultraviolet A (UVA) light using a catheter inserted into the patients' tracheas. Patients were followed for 30 days. The findings were based on four patients; the fifth patient had no detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 at the study outset. https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-se... >The problem with trust and credibility is that once it’s lost, it’s very hard to gain back. Are you talking about corporate media? They seem to break trust constantly, and a large % of the population continues to trust them.

908B64B197 5y ago
Wait... that can't be true. Because the media immediately published this https://youtu.be/fr5OopWwp98 https://youtu.be/fr5OopWwp98 and they laughed the idea away. So far I've seen no retractions.
- alimw 5y ago
  Did you post the wrong link? The doctors in that clip don't actually mention the UV light thing, although they are clear in their opposition to injecting disinfectant.

SnowProblem 5y ago

Aytu BioPharma is a small company bringing UV light into the body, and the early trials on COVID last year showed it worked. The same was true for Hydroxychloroquine too. You fell for propaganda. https://aytubio.com/pipeline/healight-technology-platform/ https://aytubio.com/pipeline/healight-technology-platform/

phatfish 5y ago
Hydroxychloroquine has a mountain of side effects worse than COVID for most people, and very little (if any) positive effect. Maybe UV could help in some way, but was this ever going to be a real solution? I highly doubt Aytu BioPharma was in a position to deliver anything meaningful at the volume and time-scale required. Trump simply had no clue what a workable solution looked like. He broadcast to the world as the American President the ideas of the most recent crazy to have his ear (or one that he read on Twitter), and then got a bruised ego and doubled down when shown his ideas were worthless. No propaganda there.
- SnowProblem 5y ago
  The side effects of HCQ were very overstated. The first study [1] that was pushed by the media to discredit Trump saying HCQ might be dangerous to the heart was later retracted [2] because the authors refused to share its data. The best metaanalysis today shows HCQ works to treat COVID if used early and is safe at the right doses [3]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/malaria-drug-trump-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/malaria-drug-trump... [2] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... [3] https://hcqmeta.com/ https://hcqmeta.com/

camhart 5y ago

He said they were going to look into it. He didn't break trust with your example because he didn't make a statement of fact that it was a cure. He said they'd look into it. Now if all you do is read the title of articles or videos from left leaning news site, you may walk away with the belief that he's telling people to inject it. But he's not. He says they're going to look into it. Watch the video for yourself (and take note at the video title): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE. I want to add--I'm in no way indicating the right leaning news sites don't do the same. They've both screwed the country up by failing to report news without some bias slapped all over everything.

iammisc 5y ago

> The problem with trust and credibility is that once it’s lost, it’s very hard to gain back. Even if the broken clock is right twice a day, it’s still broken. If that's the case, then the previous administration's opponents ought to look in the mirror, because they were the first anti-vaxxers, the first covid deniers (pelosi's statements that people should not be afraid of covid in late jan/early feb in chinatown, despite having access to the same intelligence as trump), and Dr Fauci lying to the US congress about gain of function research. Honestly, given what's happened in the last two years on both sides, it should come as no surprise that no one trusts the federal government.

99_00 5y ago

You can't blame corporate media and the scientific establishment, and big tech's active suppression of this topic on Trump. That's on them. Do you think corporate media is giving the recent information the weight it deserves, given the fact that 4.3 million people died so far, and untold damage was done to the global economy and mental health?