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> Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? The previous administration was completely nuts and

by uses 5y ago

> Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? The previous administration was completely nuts and would do and say all kinds of random things. The problems with communication and trust were too many to know where to start. Besides that, the context was totally different. A president trying to "wage a trade war" on China, stir up nationalist sentiment, distract from his responsibility to respond to the pandemic, constantly regurgitating conspiracy theories and other misinformation, constantly trying to distract from scandals, etc. > Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? The amount of misinformation about COVID was and is extreme. Yeah, they moderated their platform, which is under intense congressional scrutiny, in the middle of a once-in-a-century pandemic. Even so, I think you're conflating the bio-weapon theory with the lab-leak theory. > Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president? Major social networks and medias didn't "reverse their positions"...we learned more, we're still learning more. What changed in the meantime is so, so many things lmao.

gjs278 5y ago
you’re a piece of shit. fuck you and fuck your censorship.
iammisc 5y ago
The previous administration was broadly right on many important topics regarding the pandemic, that the media was wrong on. 1. Vaccines would be available by the election (they were off by two days, likely because of optics of releasing a vaccine right before). 2. The lab leak theory being worthy of investigation 3. School lockdowns are damaging (now broad agreement) 4. New York did not need 40k ventilators and Andrew Cuomo covered up nursing home deaths (later an aide admitted to it) 5. Shutting down travel was wrong before it was right. If you recall, after trump's state of the union, in which he mentioned covid, Nancy Pelosi went into the streets of china town and insisted people ignore his fear mongering. Shall I go on? > A president trying to "wage a trade war" on China A trade war which he campaigned on, was voted into office for, and for which he has the legal authority. You are complaining that trump doesn't agree with you, not that he did something legally wrong. > we learned more, we're still learning more Yes, they learned that they were wrong on many things and trump was right.
- javagram 5y ago
  > 1. Vaccines would be available by the election (they were off by two days, likely because of optics of releasing a vaccine right before) Fact check - the first COVID vaccine given in the US outside of a clinical trial was December 14, over a month after the election, not two days. > If you recall, after trump's state of the union, in which he mentioned covid, Nancy Pelosi went into the streets of china town and insisted people ignore his fear mongering. Are you aware that residents of Chinatowns are US citizens/residents, and not “travel”? I’d suggest you search news sources again and review Trump’s comments - he never warned Americans in the state of the union to stay away from downtown areas. He didn’t call for Americans to stay home and avoid coronavirus until March 2020. In February 2020 Trump’s message was that US residents had nothing to fear from the coronavirus, and that Democrats were trying to panic people - Pelosi et al were actually backing the administration line when they went to downtown areas and said people should continue their normal lives. Here’s one reminder article for you to review https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-democrats-over-coronavirus-criticism-this-is-their-new-hoax https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-demo... ‘Acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney earlier Friday claimed the press was seeking to use the virus to harm Trump, while Donald Trump Jr. claimed on Fox News that Democrats are hoping coronavirus "kills millions of people" so it ends the president's "streak of winning."’ This was 4 days after Pelosi visited Chinatown in SF.

by uses 5y ago

gjs278 5y ago

you’re a piece of shit. fuck you and fuck your censorship.

iammisc 5y ago

The previous administration was broadly right on many important topics regarding the pandemic, that the media was wrong on. 1. Vaccines would be available by the election (they were off by two days, likely because of optics of releasing a vaccine right before). 2. The lab leak theory being worthy of investigation 3. School lockdowns are damaging (now broad agreement) 4. New York did not need 40k ventilators and Andrew Cuomo covered up nursing home deaths (later an aide admitted to it) 5. Shutting down travel was wrong before it was right. If you recall, after trump's state of the union, in which he mentioned covid, Nancy Pelosi went into the streets of china town and insisted people ignore his fear mongering. Shall I go on? > A president trying to "wage a trade war" on China A trade war which he campaigned on, was voted into office for, and for which he has the legal authority. You are complaining that trump doesn't agree with you, not that he did something legally wrong. > we learned more, we're still learning more Yes, they learned that they were wrong on many things and trump was right.

javagram 5y ago
> 1. Vaccines would be available by the election (they were off by two days, likely because of optics of releasing a vaccine right before) Fact check - the first COVID vaccine given in the US outside of a clinical trial was December 14, over a month after the election, not two days. > If you recall, after trump's state of the union, in which he mentioned covid, Nancy Pelosi went into the streets of china town and insisted people ignore his fear mongering. Are you aware that residents of Chinatowns are US citizens/residents, and not “travel”? I’d suggest you search news sources again and review Trump’s comments - he never warned Americans in the state of the union to stay away from downtown areas. He didn’t call for Americans to stay home and avoid coronavirus until March 2020. In February 2020 Trump’s message was that US residents had nothing to fear from the coronavirus, and that Democrats were trying to panic people - Pelosi et al were actually backing the administration line when they went to downtown areas and said people should continue their normal lives. Here’s one reminder article for you to review https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-democrats-over-coronavirus-criticism-this-is-their-new-hoax https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-demo... ‘Acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney earlier Friday claimed the press was seeking to use the virus to harm Trump, while Donald Trump Jr. claimed on Fox News that Democrats are hoping coronavirus "kills millions of people" so it ends the president's "streak of winning."’ This was 4 days after Pelosi visited Chinatown in SF.