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I believe I understand the distinction between the two features perfectly well. Personally, I don't have a problem with the parental control feature in Message
by jmull 5y ago
I believe I understand the distinction between the two features perfectly well.
Personally, I don't have a problem with the parental control feature in Messages (it's pretty clear what it does and the user can decide whether to use it or not, or the parent for younger kids -- that's exactly as it should be).
I do have a problem with the feature where they scan images on my phone to match against a database of images. To be clear, here's a list of things that don't make me feel better about it: that it scans only a certain subset of images on my phone; that the technology parts of it are probably good; that NCMEC maintains the database of images (is there any particular reason to believe the database is near perfect and has all appropriate quality controls in place to ensure it remains so?)
There are several issues about this that Apple does not address. A big one for me is the indignity and humiliation of them force scanning my phone for CP.
Here's a hypothetical for Craig Federighi and Tim Cook to consider:
Suppose we know there are people who smuggle drugs on airplanes on their person for the purpose of something terrible, like addicting children or poisoning people. If I run an airport I could say: to stop this, I'm going to subject everyone who flies out of my airport to a body-cavity search. Tim, and Craig, are you OK with this? If I can say, "Don't worry! We have created this great robots that ensure the body cavity searches are gentle and the minimum needed to check for illegal drugs," does it really change anything to make it more acceptable to you?
- OrvalWintermute 5y agoI see this as wrought with constitutional issues. If Congress has to obey the Constitution, then they cannot create an organization which they control, and then push for that organization to execute functions they cannot perform by getting in cahoots with industry.
- kemayo 5y ago> There are several issues about this that Apple does not address. A big one for me is the indignity and humiliation of them force scanning my phone for CP. Are you okay (conceptually, assuming a perfect database and hashing function) with them scanning pictures uploaded to iCloud for this material if the scanning happens on their servers? Or is this a complete "these pictures should never be scanned, regardless of where it happens" position? If the former, I personally don't feel a distinction between "a photo is scanned immediately before upload" and "a photo is scanned immediately after upload" is very meaningful. I'd be more concerned if there wasn't a clear way to opt-out. I acknowledge that there's room to disagree on this, and maybe I'm unusual in drawing my boundaries where I do. If the latter... I think that ship has sailed. Near as I can tell, all the major cloud platforms are scanning for this stuff post-upload, and Apple was a bit of an outlier in how little they were doing before this.