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Tell that to history, current social issues, vitamin D levels, sickle cell and the cops.

nobody9999 5y ago
"Racism" is an outdated concept and should be relegated to the dustbin of history. What it is we're discussing is bigotry. And it should be called out for what it is: hateful prejudice for no real reason at all other than the anger and hatred of those who practice it.
- Retric 5y ago
  You’re assuming people universally have strong negative feelings about race, but that’s on you. Being Irish for example used to have a lot of baggage in the US, but that went away even though people still identify as being of Irish descent.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >You’re assuming people universally have strong negative feelings about race, but that’s on you. I'm not assuming that at all. Rather, I asserted that "race" as a social construct is outdated given our understanding of genetics and the extreme genetic similarity of all humans. Whether anyone else agrees with me or has any particular feelings about "race" one way or another is irrelevant to anything I wrote.
    - Retric 5y ago
      Race isn’t outdated, they do represent district groups who shared genetic information significantly more frequently internally than with each other. For example Native Americans likely had fairly regular contact via Eskimos to Asia and thus everyone else, but it was a tenuous link. Clearly these groups can be further subdivided or even combined, but they do actually represent something “real” even if the details are more complex than people used to be aware of. As transportation has improved they’re becoming less relevant. In say 1,000 years things might become so blurred as to render them irrelevant, but for now it still meaningful. The social concept of race is more iffy. As I pointed out if we treat 3/4 white 1/4th black as black then of course it doesn’t represent the underlying reality well.
      - nobody9999 5y ago
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/

"Racism" is an outdated concept and should be relegated to the dustbin of history. What it is we're discussing is bigotry. And it should be called out for what it is: hateful prejudice for no real reason at all other than the anger and hatred of those who practice it.

Retric 5y ago
You’re assuming people universally have strong negative feelings about race, but that’s on you. Being Irish for example used to have a lot of baggage in the US, but that went away even though people still identify as being of Irish descent.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >You’re assuming people universally have strong negative feelings about race, but that’s on you. I'm not assuming that at all. Rather, I asserted that "race" as a social construct is outdated given our understanding of genetics and the extreme genetic similarity of all humans. Whether anyone else agrees with me or has any particular feelings about "race" one way or another is irrelevant to anything I wrote.
  - Retric 5y ago
    Race isn’t outdated, they do represent district groups who shared genetic information significantly more frequently internally than with each other. For example Native Americans likely had fairly regular contact via Eskimos to Asia and thus everyone else, but it was a tenuous link. Clearly these groups can be further subdivided or even combined, but they do actually represent something “real” even if the details are more complex than people used to be aware of. As transportation has improved they’re becoming less relevant. In say 1,000 years things might become so blurred as to render them irrelevant, but for now it still meaningful. The social concept of race is more iffy. As I pointed out if we treat 3/4 white 1/4th black as black then of course it doesn’t represent the underlying reality well.
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/