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It will most likely scan files in the /iCloud directory inside iPhone/iPad. In there, the file scan process described above will be executed, regardless of what

It will most likely scan files in the /iCloud directory inside iPhone/iPad. In there, the file scan process described above will be executed, regardless of what the user stores there. I do not see how this wouldn’t be easily extended to all mountpoints on the device. And again, one needs to have faith and assume the /iCloud binary information on storage is really physically isolated from everything else. Sorry, it is very unlikely they aren’t really scanning, as I said, everything. Edit: clarity.

zepto 5y ago
This is just plain bullshit. The process is well documented, and there is no general scan of files inside iCloud. In fact there is no filesystem scan at all. There is only a check that takes place during the upload process to iCloud Photo Library, which is separate from iCloud Drive.
- zekrioca 5y ago
  Assume /iCloud == /iCloud/Photo Library then.
  - zepto 5y ago
    That makes no sense - iCloud Photo Library is a separate service from iCloud Drive. It isn’t part of the filesystem. In any case the claim that the system will scan files other than photos chosen for upload is just a lie.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  > The process is well documented The only well documented process in tech is source-available. There is documents and speculation regarding this process but we don't actually know the details beyond what they claim and they're not saying too much.
  - zepto 5y ago
    The information about what is checked by this mechanism is well documented. If you want to say that Apple could be lying or mistaken about what the code does, that is a different claim from whether they have documented what I said they documented.
pvarangot 5y ago
There's no "most likely", it's already implemented. I just saw a USENIX talk from a developer and a cryptographer and they said it's a hook when iCloud Photos opens a file to upload it to cloud. I don't like it. I wish it had never happened. Fuck the government. But you are wrong and blowing this out of proportion.
- zekrioca 5y ago
  Have you ever read about inotify/inotifywait?

zepto 5y ago

This is just plain bullshit. The process is well documented, and there is no general scan of files inside iCloud. In fact there is no filesystem scan at all. There is only a check that takes place during the upload process to iCloud Photo Library, which is separate from iCloud Drive.

zekrioca 5y ago
Assume /iCloud == /iCloud/Photo Library then.
- zepto 5y ago
  That makes no sense - iCloud Photo Library is a separate service from iCloud Drive. It isn’t part of the filesystem. In any case the claim that the system will scan files other than photos chosen for upload is just a lie.
vineyardmike 5y ago
> The process is well documented The only well documented process in tech is source-available. There is documents and speculation regarding this process but we don't actually know the details beyond what they claim and they're not saying too much.
- zepto 5y ago
  The information about what is checked by this mechanism is well documented. If you want to say that Apple could be lying or mistaken about what the code does, that is a different claim from whether they have documented what I said they documented.

pvarangot 5y ago

There's no "most likely", it's already implemented. I just saw a USENIX talk from a developer and a cryptographer and they said it's a hook when iCloud Photos opens a file to upload it to cloud. I don't like it. I wish it had never happened. Fuck the government. But you are wrong and blowing this out of proportion.

zekrioca 5y ago
Have you ever read about inotify/inotifywait?